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== Immigrants ==

Do we mark people as subject_has_role=immigrant or significant_event=immigration, who migrate to other countries. It can be inferred from country_of_citizenship, and sometimes birth and death locations, but not all entries have that information complete. Not everyone that died in another country was an immigrant, they can die on vacation. [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:47, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

:I would be interested to see how consistently we use {{Q|Q4989857}} and {{Q|Q12547146}}. Of course, most people are both, being reciprocal properties, but some events are more notable than others, such as {{Q|Q110486791}}. English Wikipedia categories are a holy intractable mess, in this regard. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:48, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
* I suppose we can just use "migrant", to be grammatically agnostic. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:02, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

:We have {{P|551}} to show when someone picked up a country as a residence. I don't think it's good modeling ot use subject_has_role or significant_event here. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 22:16, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

== Swedish warship prefix HMS or HSwMS depending on context ==

I raised this in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Ships#HMS_or_HSwMS_for_Swedish_ships, but no-one else seems to contribute there. I think its worth getting views here, for the general case where the label an item has depends not merely on they language its used in, but the context too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Swedish_Navy#HMS? describes the problem that Swedes prefix their naval ships with HMS, except when those ships are involved in international operations, when they use HSwMS, to avoid confusion with the Royal Navy. So what do we do for labels, when we don't know the context the names will be used in? Use en:HMS which will confuse many English speakers, use en-GB:HSwMS which is accurate, but who has en-GB as their language code, and only really benefits SPARQL queries where fallback codes can be defined, use en:HSwMS and expect Swedes to pick up sv:HMS. What about {{P|1448}} where the official name is context sensitive based on operational use, mul:HMS or mul:HSwMS?

I personally think en-GB:HSwMS, en:HSwMS, sv:HMS, mul:HSwMS, as wikidata use is effectively "use in an international context". Do we have any precedents? English wikipedia usage is mostly HSwMS, but that may have been achieved using a template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:HSwMS. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:21, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

== {{P|P509}} ==

What is the correct way to show that someone died by being pushed in front of a train in the metro? [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:32, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

:Around these parts, that's typically known in health care as {{Q|Q770709}}. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
* If you have enough of them you want to aggregate, you can create a new Q-item. We have {{Q|Q114079743}} and a few others. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
*:{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:21, 6 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Clumsily constructed Wikidata item ==

So, based on [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1260524&action=history&dir=prev its history], [[Q1260524]] ("time of the day") seems to have been created by a non-English speaker from the German-language Wikipedia article [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tageszeit Tageszeit].  Is there any way to correct this to match the standard English term "time of day" (in other words, drop the definite article)? -- [[User:DanielPenfield|DanielPenfield]] ([[User talk:DanielPenfield|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:59, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
:Done; but you can edit labels and descriptions, too. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:50, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:21, 6 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== And place location add ==

new add [[Special:Contributions/2409:40C2:103D:4F0D:8000:0:0:0|2409:40C2:103D:4F0D:8000:0:0:0]] 08:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
: What do you mean? --[[User:Wolverène|Wolverène]] ([[User talk:Wolverène|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:06, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:22, 6 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== [[Q59312334]] and [[Q107936070]] ==

: {{Q|Q59312334}} and {{Q|Q107936070}}

These two items contain reciprocal statements being different from each other, but I can't spot the difference. Does anyone know the difference and can add statements accordingly? [[User:Dorades|Dorades]] ([[User talk:Dorades|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:59, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

:They are identical (in my opinion), a bot([[User:GeertivpBot|GeertivpBot]]) added the statement: {{P|1889}}. [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:36, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
::What the bot had to do is merge the two items.--[[User:Isidre blanc|Isidre blanc]] ([[User talk:Isidre blanc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:32, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Merged}} <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 01:30, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
::::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Satyrium ketumbense ==

Hi there! Is this not created yet or possible created as a synonym? Greetings from South Africa! [[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]] ([[User talk:Oesjaar|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:34, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]]; I've added this as an alias to {{Q|Q10368564}}, as it seems to be an alternate spelling rather than a separately described synonym. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 21:24, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
:: Thank you! (Dankie in Afrikaans) Regards! [[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]] ([[User talk:Oesjaar|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:29, 7 August 2023 (UTC)}}
== How to depict freshmen ==

Any thoughts on what to do at {{Q|60825090}} to depict that a freshman is someone in their first year? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 15:08, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

:First year of any educational institution? Including high school, university, primary school, etc.? [[User:Mateussf|Mateussf]] ([[User talk:Mateussf|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
::Why do we need a separate item from {{Q|Q1215869}}? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:42, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]], it looks like {{q|60825090}} is specifically about the educational realm, whereas {{q|1215869}} is a more generic version that could also apply to e.g. freshmen congresspeople. It seems a bit backwards that 1215869 is described as a {{p|279}} of 60825090, but there may be non-English language stuff at play, so I'd be a little cautious before messing with it too much. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 02:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
::::There's also {{Q|Q13883551}} so some tidying up here is needed [[User:M2Ys4U|M2Ys4U]] ([[User talk:M2Ys4U|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
::::We seem to mix three different concepts into two items. 
::::(1) There the generic concept.
::::(2) There the concept that's about being part in the educational institution (maybe there's an additional seperation here between people in the first year compared to the first semester)
::::(3) The status of being a nonregular member of a student association before that member becomes a full member which usually is after they were one year in the student organization. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 11:22, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Mateussf|Mateussf]], yep, that's how it's defined in the item. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 02:37, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

== Baronets ==

See {{Q|Q120985038}}. I want to show the succession of Baronets, but looking at multiple entries, they are all set up differently. Should a baronetcy be set up as a position? I want to have an auto generate table that would list the succession, like we have for monarchs. [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:31, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] I think the general standard for hereditary titles like this is to have it as {{P|97}}:''baronetcy'' or the more specific {{P|97}}:''specific baronetcy''. Someone would need to tweak the table script to be able to generate a list of holders, since I think it's only set up for P39, but in principle it should be a relatively small change. [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:01, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
*{{Ping|Andrew Gray}} See: {{Q|Q15490687}} and see if that was what you were thinking of it looking like. I haven't figured out how that table generator works, there are too many subtemplates invoked for me to get a new version to work properly. I wanted a version for awards and one for noble titles. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:39, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] That approach looks good, I think. For the table generator, I suspect we would also need to update the bot, it's not just a matter of templates - @[[User:Oravrattas|Oravrattas]] would know if this is feasible or not. [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:55, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
*:: {{ping|Andrew Gray|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )}} I'm quite reluctant to add more complexity like this to PHH. The bot has to cope with quite a few different edge cases just for P39, and each additional property would likely multiply these. If someone were to volunteer to become a co-maintainer, and handle that part of the code, I'd certainly consider it, but I suspect it would be better to create a new bot for each property instead (whether derived from PHH, or taking a fresh approach.) --[[User:Oravrattas|Oravrattas]] ([[User talk:Oravrattas|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:45, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
* {{Ping|Oravrattas}} Absolutely, new bot! Is there any way that the generated tables get to be part of Autodescription? As the tables are now, they sometimes get pushed down by active discussions or can get archived and removed from the page. This is good stuff. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:15, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
:::It looks like {{Q|Q43274}} duplicated "Prince of Wales" as both a noble_title and a position, as a way to solve the puzzle, but we should only have to add the data once. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

== Pronoun templates ==

I recently received a complaint about "misgendering" an editor whose pronouns I had no way of knowing.  To remedy this, I have copied selected templates from ENWP into [[:Category:Editor's pronouns templates]].  For example, by using <nowiki>{{they|ExampleUser}}</nowiki> instead of "they", it will automatically be substituted in line with the user's gender preference.  Use <nowiki>{{ucfirst:{{they|ExampleUser}}}}</nowiki> for a capitalised version (e.g. "They").  Note that I have not copied over all related templates, just those that seemed most immediately useful.
I recognise that this only resolves the problem for English, and this is an international project. [[User:Bovlb|Bovlb]] ([[User talk:Bovlb|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:04, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

:You can also use the underlying [[:mw:GENDER|GENDER magic word]] directly, which should work with any language: for instance, <code><nowiki>{{GENDER:Bovlb|He|She|They}}</nowiki></code> becomes <q>{{GENDER:Bovlb|He|She|They}}</q>. (<code><nowiki>{{subst:GENDER:…}}</nowiki></code> also works, if you prefer that.) [[User:Lucas Werkmeister|Lucas Werkmeister]] ([[User talk:Lucas Werkmeister|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:54, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

== Interwiki for external sites ==

Today I learned that we have interwiki capabilities for external sites, for example:

: <code><nowiki>[[viaf:64009368|64009368]]</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>[https://viaf.org/viaf/64009368/ 64009368])</nowiki></code>

I have added this eample, for now, to {{P|P214}} using {{P|6720}}.

I'm also told that using these puts less strain on the database than ordinary external links like the one in my example (see discussion at [[phabricator:T343131|T343131]]).

A list of the existing interwiki shortcuts is at [[:meta:Interwiki map]]; more are likely to be added soon, and they can be requested there.

I suggest we now need to consider:

* changing constraints on P6720
* how we could use this as a form of {{P|P1630}}, for internal use and to serve to, for example, {{tl|Authority control}} on other projects (do we need a separate property?)
* where else it might benefit us.

Thoughts? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 19:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
== Duplicates for navigation templates for gminas in Poland ==

Hello, there seem to exist some duplicates for navigation bars for gminas in Poland, for example

* [[:d:Q22747898]] (en, de, fr, ...)
* [[:d:Q22897508]] (pl, uk, ...)

In same cases, there seem to exist three items per gmina (e.g. an extra item for french)

They can be found by searching for ''template gmina'' + name of the gmina, for example:
* https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?go=Seite&search=Template+Gmina+O%C5%82awa&search=Template+Gmina+O%C5%82awa&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1&ns120=1

Is there a way to find and merge them per script, SPARQL, PetScan, Quickstatements, etc.?

In addition, property [[Property:P1423]] could be added to the navigation template item and [[Property:P1424]] could be added to the item for the gmina, so the naviation template item and the item for the gmina link to each other. 

Thanks a lot! [[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:09, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

:Hello, possible duplicates (by searching for ''template gmina'' + name of the gmina) can be found at
:* [[User:M2k~dewiki/Tools/possible duplicates templates gminas]]
:For example:
:* [[:d:Q22730319]]
:* [[:d:Q22802308]]
:* [[:d:Q22905161]]
:The current list with more than 1.400 possible duplicate items also includes some false positive matches, since it is simply based on string matching. [[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:06, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping project|Poland}} for information [[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:58, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Hello, about 1.100 duplicates (background batch run #209844 + some test runs + manual merges before) have been merged:
:::* https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch/209844
:::* https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked?hidebots=1&hidecategorization=1&target=User%3AM2k~dewiki%2FTools%2Fpossible_duplicates_templates_gminas&limit=500&days=30&enhanced=1&urlversion=2
:::* using https://github.com/M2k-dewiki/wikipedia/blob/main/other/check-duplicates-templates-gmina-poland.txt
:::[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

== Wikifunctions ==

[[:Wikifunctions:Wikifunctions:Main Page|Wikifunctions]], the latest Wikimedia project, has had a soft launch. It's probably too early to be looking at items for its entries, but we could already be linking to its meta pages, such as adding its version of this page to {{Q|Q16503}}.

Is that in hand, or do we need to do something to get it moving? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 20:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

:I don't think a project code has been implemented for multilingual sites. There is a phabricator ticket for it {{phab|T342857}} -- [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
::The goal of this new wiki is not clear to me : is it there to simply help document each computer function (SQL function, Lua function, etc etc) or is there to store functions (module/templates) that could be used crosswiki into wikiarticles ? <span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 8px;background:#303030">[[User:Bouzinac|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Bouzinac'''</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Bouzinac|💬]]●[[Special:Contributions/Bouzinac|✒️]]●[[User:Bouzinac/UB|💛]]</sup> 07:50, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
:::[[:Wikifunctions:Wikifunctions:FAQ|Wikifunctions FAQ]]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 10:00, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

== Open Library <> Wikidata connection ==

Hello,
I'm an volunteer for {{Q|Q1201876}} and would like to have their system start pulling information from Wikidata for populating the author pages. For example, we could pull in date of birth/death and some identifiers. The tentative plan is to start by pulling the JSON for an author by wikidata ID (which is stored in Open Library) with a url like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q110436.json when an author is edited (which doesn't happen too often). Then we'll start slowly integrating by doing thing like displaying the DOB and a little note that the data comes from Wikidata. From there we can build out more things like using identifiers, alternative names, names in other languages, etc. We're thoughtful about caching the results from Wikidata as to not hit the API more than needed. Doing a bulk import is also under consideration once we start using the data a bit.

I just wanted to put this out there and see if anyone had feedback.

PS: I'm just a volunteer so can't speak on behalf of OL but I have talked with their team and they're quite excited about the idea of pulling more from wikidata and directing users to contribute to wikidata for edits when possible. Thanks [[User:RayScript|RayScript]] ([[User talk:RayScript|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

:With my Expounder sites (https://expounder.info) I started that way, but quickly switched to using SPARQL queries to generate custom JSON files for individual entries, and then csv files for blocks of entries. I found the custom output much easier to process, and the SPARQL support people here very helpful in designing queries. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
::Https://fannish.expounder.info might be of interest as it has entries for authors with timelines and awards given, and links to other literary sites [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:27, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
:::This is very cool, showing awards is something that we discussed a while back but didn't do too much with. Your site is pretty nice example of how this data could be visualized. https://fannish.expounder.info/Q110436 [[User:RayScript|RayScript]] ([[User talk:RayScript|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:40, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
:{{re|RayScript}} really cool idea. Are you aware of {{P|P648}}, {{P|P3847}} which could be used for other integrations (or to bootstrap your efforts)? I might be a little cautious about SPARQL (though I'm not speaking with terribly much experience) because my guess would be that SPARQL is a lot more expensive for WMF than just hitting the EntityData endpoint. Or at least it can be. If it matters depends on the traffic you get (though honestly you'll want to cache even just for latency reasons, items can get big). They literally just finished making a new [[Wikidata:REST_API|REST API for Wikidata]] that you would be a good test customer for. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:28, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
::I found that a bulk query for 1000 authors was much better than 1000 individual requests for files. You can also tailor a SPARQL query to only ask for items that have been updated in a certain time window. OpenLibrary need to think whether to get updates when they edit an author, or poll to see if WD has updated them.
::https://fannish.expounder.info/Q42 shows how I do things for Douglas Adams, with tabs for Wikipedia and Wikidata to allow easy updates. 

::And if you already store wikidata ID's for everyone, it would be very useful if OpenLibrary could provide an API to give access to their pages given the ID, so https://openlibrary.org/wd_api/Q42 or similar pointed to your page on Adams. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:25, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
::What @[[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] says is correct. We want to discourage use of the Query Service for access that doesn't actually require the graph. The REST API, action API and Special:EntityData are much preferred because scaling and caching for them is better. If you're interested in going with the new REST API that'd be great and I'd love to hear your feedback so we can continue adjusting it. [[User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:42, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Hello Lydia, given that this is a new project we're working on and it seems like y'all have done a lot of work to get this REST API into a good place following standards and versioned I think it probably makes sense to use this instead of the Special:EntityData. 
:::I do have some quick feedback based on first looks:
:::1. https://doc.wikimedia.org/Wikibase/master/js/rest-api/ doesn't let you select a real server from the dropdown. I think it would be highly preferable to let users select a real server (probably should be default) and start testing.
:::2. If it is your intention to let users use the that page for testing then I think there's a way with open api to set the authorization at the root level instead of with each API. 
:::3. In that same vain, it would be nice to let people know somewhere early on that they can jump right in and view the json unauthorized via https://www.wikidata.org/w/rest.php/wikibase/v0/entities/items/Q42 
:::Look forward to digging into this more :) [[User:RayScript|RayScript]] ([[User talk:RayScript|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:16, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:RayScript|RayScript]]: Thank you! That's helpful. Some of your points will be addressed with [[phab:T329080|T329080.]] [[User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:27, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
::The Open Library ID (OLID) is something I think we'll use at some point but we want to start with having the QID on the OL side to avoid making calls for every single time an author is edited. But as we figure things out and get a nice UI in order I hope we'll use the OLID too. Also thanks for mentioning the REST API. Wasn't aware of that but will look into it! [[User:RayScript|RayScript]] ([[User talk:RayScript|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:42, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
== Error with P373 ==

There is an issue with the {{P|P373}} property at {{Q|Q605249}}. The value of the property is "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" (with the question mark at the end), but clicking on it takes you to the non-existent [[:c:Category:Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep]] (note the lack of the question mark at the end). The right category, which is correctly linked in the project links at the bottom of the item, is [[:c:Category:Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?]] (including the question mark). Is this something that can be fixed from our end, or would it be better to create the non-existent category as a redirect to the correct place? –[[User:FlyingAce|FlyingAce]]<sup>[[User talk:FlyingAce|✈hello]]</sup> 15:08, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

:Looks like the issue is that the property links to "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Do%20Androids%20Dream%20of%20Electric%20Sheep?" (notice that the final question mark is not being included as part of the link), whereas the project link at the bottom links to "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep%3F" (the question mark has been encoded and is thus part of the link). I would assume other items that end in punctuation marks (or in question marks, at least) have a similar issue; still not sure how to fix this, though. Any ideas? –[[User:FlyingAce|FlyingAce]]<sup>[[User talk:FlyingAce|✈hello]]</sup> 17:15, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

== Indicating use of a technology ==

We seem to constantly be tripped up with one item using another's technology. {{P|527}} is often used, but it often sits uncomfortably for ideas rather than objects. A steamship has a steam engine as a defining property, but does a B-2 stealth bomber have stealth. Instead we claim its a {{Q|753283}} which is a {{P|279}} of {{Q|11436}} with qualifier {{P|642}} {{Q|339042}}. But I'd not want to mix list of aircraft types with what they do, bomber etc with how they do it. A Moto G phone has location services, but that might be the American GPS or the  European Gallleo, it has Bluetooth, but we don't say its a bluetooth_phone . I'm rather confused with the ontology here. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

== batch update of incorrect ship data ==

There are several hundred ships that are incorrectly classified.  The problem is that they are subclasses of a ship type instead of being instances of the ship type.  One example is {{Q|4394122}}, which is a subclass of {{Q|174736}}. How can I submit a mass update to fix these problems?  I obviously don't want to manually edit each of the ships.  14:54, 3 August 2023 (UTC) [[User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider|Peter F. Patel-Schneider]] ([[User talk:Peter F. Patel-Schneider|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:54, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

:You can use [https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/ Quickstatements] to remove and add statements from a spreadsheet. QS can't change existing statements, so you might want to skip claims that have qualifiers and references, and do those manually instead. I usually generate this from a SPARQL query where I take extra care to check for any conceivable problem or corner-case. I also sample a number of edits to make sure they look fine. [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:44, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks, that should do the trick. [[User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider|Peter F. Patel-Schneider]] ([[User talk:Peter F. Patel-Schneider|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:59, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:36, 10 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Q6075604 und Q14100619 ==

Are the two data objects {{Q|6075604}} and {{Q|14100619}} duplicates? --[[User:Gymnicus|Gymnicus]] ([[User talk:Gymnicus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:48, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

:It would appear {{Q|Q14100619}} should be marked as {{statement||P31|Q21286738}}, though the dates of death are curious. Maybe someone else has a better idea? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 18:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Gymnicus}} did you try asking the creator of both articles? [[User:HitomiAkane]] is active here. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Multichill}} Since I don't speak Arabic and therefore couldn't find the information, no.
::But I took a look at the history of the data objects. Up to this editing [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14100619&diff=1133449395&oldid=1101594890], the Dutch article was contained in the data object {{Q|14100619}} and only then was it moved to the data object {{Q|6075604}}. And the date of death was also changed in the Dutch article in the period surrounding the shift to the other data object. --[[User:Gymnicus|Gymnicus]] ([[User talk:Gymnicus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Gymnicus|Gymnicus]], @[[User:Huntster|Huntster]], @[[User:Multichill|Multichill]] The [https://arz.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%B3%D8%AC%D9%84&logid=2405162 arzwiki article] correspond to item [[Q14100619]] was deleted as it's an obvious duplicated article, you may want to merge item [[Q14100619]] with [[Q6075604]] [[User:HitomiAkane|HitomiAkane]] ([[User talk:HitomiAkane|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:47, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|HitomiAkane}} Thanks for your help. --[[User:Gymnicus|Gymnicus]] ([[User talk:Gymnicus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{merged}} <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 21:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Major bug in visual editor switcher ==

So I was making a very simple two-line report to [[WD:AN]] and I began receiving some dialogs about having switched to source editing. So curiously, I switched into Visual Editor mode. And saving the edit [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1950025242 turned me into a vandal myself.]

Apparently if I am currently adding a topic to a discussion board, and I switch into VE, then that topic erases all other content on the page. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:18, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

:It's unlikely that anyone who's working on the Visual Editor reads the Wikidata project chat. If you care about the bug then it makes more sense to create a [[phab:|phabricator]] ticket. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 12:13, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:Filed [[phab:T343916]]. [[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]] ([[User talk:GZWDer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:53, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{phab|T343916}}
::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Semi-protection of an item that is below 500 links ==

I've made an [[Talk:Q531779|edit request]] to add a simple interwiki to an item that is semi-protected, but seeing as the category is only populated by very old (and mostly technical-looking) requests, I'm not sure it was the right place so apologies for pinging people here.

This being said, I see that semi-protection is supposedly limited to [[Wikidata:Protection_policy#Highly_used_items|Highly used items]] ("items used by 500 Wikimedia pages or more"). This is clearly not the case here I think, but maybe I am missing something: how does the counting work? [[User:Superboilles|Superboilles]] ([[User talk:Superboilles|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:52, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

:This item is currently at 506 uses, per [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/datasets/wmde-analytics-engineering/wdcm/etl/wdcm_topItems.csv this evaluation]. You can find pages using that item via https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q531779&action=info#Page_properties (click on "Page information" on an item page and navigate to the "Page properties" section). —[[User:MisterSynergy|MisterSynergy]] ([[User talk:MisterSynergy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:05, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
::Interesting, thanks. [[User:Superboilles|Superboilles]] ([[User talk:Superboilles|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:36, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Roskomnadzor page on fr.wikipedia has twice the same image ==

Hi, there is something that I don't like and I'm not sure how to improve it. On [[w:fr:Roskomnadzor]], ''Emblem of Roskomnadzor.svg'' appears twice in the infobox. That's because in [[Q129597]], the file can be found at {{p|154}} and {{p|P94}}. I think that ''Emblem of Roskomnadzor.svg'' is not a logo and should be at the 'logo image' property but I would like a second though. Thank you. [[User:Jona|Jona]] ([[User talk:Jona|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{fixed}} [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:03, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

::{{thanks}} [[User:Jona|Jona]] ([[User talk:Jona|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Add Schema.org {{P|1709}}   to {{Q|7278}} ==

Schema.org has a specific entry for Political Parties in https://schema.org/PoliticalParty. That should be added to {{Q|7278}} with the {{P|1709}} property. [[User:DCastanho|DCastanho]] ([[User talk:DCastanho|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{done}} <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 14:58, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Problem with Q56909939: 2000 Author for an Article! ==

Hello All,

I think there is a problem with {{Q|56909939}}. it has around 2000 Auther. [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0925963517307495? The original website shows only 10].

Any suggestion how to fix that? [[User:Michel Bakni|Michel Bakni]] ([[User talk:Michel Bakni|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
: {{ping|Michel Bakni}} that "full work available at" link looks like it is wrong, the correct page for this article is [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S055032131730086X?via%3Dihub here] which does indeed show a very large number of authors from Aaboud to Zwalinsky. You are the one who made that assertion, where did you obtain the link from? The DOI on the article should be the standard way to reach it. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:36, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
::Note that the asserted link title is "High power density nuclear battery prototype based on diamond Schottky diodes" which is clearly a different paper. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Got you! my bad!
:::Thanks! [[User:Michel Bakni|Michel Bakni]] ([[User talk:Michel Bakni|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
::::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:32, 11 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Same lists ==

Hi,

I don't know if anyone can help me, but the French [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_pr%C3%A9sidents_de_la_Polyn%C3%A9sie_fran%C3%A7aise Liste des présidents de la Polynésie française] is only linked to a Spanish version, whereas the Dutch [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_presidenten_van_Frans-Polynesi%C3%AB Lijst van presidenten van Frans-Polynesië] is only linked to a German and Czech version, although all five lists have the same purpose. Could they all be linked together? Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A452:7DDC:1:A169:BFD1:A416:1C5|2A02:A452:7DDC:1:A169:BFD1:A416:1C5]] 10:23, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{merged}}
:{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:32, 11 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== "anti-Russian sentiment is a ideological cliché  which is a statement supported by Ukrainian Wikipedia" ==

[[Q512990|Could someone help provide me some context because i have absolutely no clue what this statement is supposed to mean]] [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:59, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

:The Ukrainian Wikipedia states that the anti-Russian sentiment does not exist in reality and is a Russian propaganda cliché. As far as I see, this is the only Wikipedia which makes this statement. For example, the English Wikipedia defines it quite differently. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
== Hyphen vs. En dash to separate years of birth/death? ==

On [[:en:Wikipedia:Hyphens_and_dashes|English Wikipedia]], the convention is to use the en dash to separate [year of birth]–[year of death], but I have often seen hyphens used here on Wikidata. [NB: If the Wikidata description is also used in a Wikipedia "Short description" tag (which I commonly do, per: {{Q*|98322674}} / [[:en:Gordon_Andrews_(industrial_designer)|Gordon Andrews]]), then in order to avoid the "Short description is different from Wikidata" hidden category, the separator needs to be an en dash.] -- [[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] ([[User talk:Cl3phact0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:19, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

:Hello {{Ping|Cl3phact0}}, the question, if the year of birth/death should be included in the description or not also has been discussed for example at:
:* [[Help_talk:Description#DOB_(or_rather_YOB/YOD)]]
:* [[Help_talk:Description/de#Lebensdaten_zusätzlich_in_Klammern_in_der_Beschreibung]]
:[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:49, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
::I would have imagined that this wasn't the first time the matter had been discussed. Thank you, {{u|M2k~dewiki}}, for the links. This in particular:
::{{tq|If, however, we generally want life data in the description across the entire database, then the form should be defined. Possible variants are the following forms: (1960–2018), (* 1960; † 2018) or (born 1960; died 2018) and to living persons (1960–) or (* 1960) or (born 1960). Maybe (* June 22, 1960 in Mainz; † 2018 in Berlin) or (* June 22, 1960 in Mainz as Peter Müller; † 2018 in Berlin as Peter Müller-Schmidt) etc.}} [''Translated from original German'']
::What I can't see is consensus as to how or if this information is to be included. (My previous assumption had been that the dates were used as a shorthand way to indicate that the subject is deceased – which seems to be the case on en:wp.) -- [[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] ([[User talk:Cl3phact0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:02, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
:::The discussion regarding [[:d:Q1501468|genealogical symbols]] in articles exists for several years in the german language wikipedia: 
:::* [[:de:Benutzer:M2k~dewiki/FAQ#Wo_finde_ich_die_Meinungsbilder_bezüglich_genealogischer_Zeichen?]]
:::[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
:There is no consensus whether or not this information belongs into the description, and if so which form is to be used. So, as long as you choose a comprehensible form, your edits are fine. However, you should not change existing descriptions for stylistic reasons, and also not to unify desriptions for a given set of items. Existing descriptions are fine as they are as well (assuming they are correct). ---[[User:MisterSynergy|MisterSynergy]] ([[User talk:MisterSynergy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you, {{u|MisterSynergy}}. What brought my attention to the matter is the enwiki [[w:Category:Short description is different from Wikidata|hidden category]] which is triggered by a hyphen/en dash discrepancy (and which, unless there is agreement between the wikidata and enwiki usage, will be persistent on the enwiki side). There is [[:en:Wikipedia:Short_description#Inclusion_of_dates|clear guidance on enwiki]] that dates should be included in the short description: {{tq|Dates or date ranges are encouraged when they enhance the short description as an annotation or improve disambiguation. As long as the formatting criteria are met, biographies of non-living people, articles on specific publications, and dated historical events generally benefit from dating, but since the description should be kept short, other information may need to take precedence.}} With this in mind, I'm not sure if this matter should be considered stylistic or technical (or if it is appropriate to replace a hyphen with an en dash in an existing item when one comes across a hyphenated date range).
::It also seems like something that the various language wikis ought to agree on and implement from soup to nuts (see below re: Spanish usage). -- [[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] ([[User talk:Cl3phact0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:50, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
:::The enwiki situation is not much of relevance here. They chose to deviate from standard Wikidata short descriptions by managing their own local ones, and for some reason they track differences in a hidden category with 3.5M members. There is no reason to force changes in Wikidata based on the enwiki situation. If they want to ignore stylistic differences in the tracking category, it should not be difficult to do this via the comparison module. Please also mind that due to the dominance of the English language in this project, stylistic decisions are often copied to other languages without much explicit discussion or agreement by individual users.
:::Here at Wikidata there is no benefit from uniformity across descriptions, and they also do not need to adhere to a particular style or form in order to serve their purpose. Nobody parses descriptions to extract information (all of that should be available as structured data anyways), and descriptions are also not read in bulk, or as part of a longer text. Also, we do not even "encourage dates or date ranges to enhance short descriptions", yet alone a particular style. In order to avoid large-scale edit batches based on personal preference, possibly switching back-and-forth between different variants, and because this does not create any benefit for Wikidata anyways, all current factually correct descriptions are fine as they are. —[[User:MisterSynergy|MisterSynergy]] ([[User talk:MisterSynergy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:08, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
: I don't think this has come up before for most Wikidata users; I certainly wasn't aware of the enwiki convention here. I don't think it would be a problem and a bot could take care of the translations; however it would probably be best to start an RFP here to establish the n-dash as the standard for year ranges in descriptions. It would also be good to check what the other language wikipedias are doing as wikidata is inherently multilingual (though we're talking about English descriptions here I think). [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:43, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
::Please don’t. There is really nothing to be gained from more discussions about descriptions. Let’s keep the current chaos as described by MisterSynergy and let’s hope that some sort of auto description magic will soon set us free from this argument. --[[User:Emu|Emu]] ([[User talk:Emu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
:::How will descriptions be handled in language code MUL (multiple languages) ? 
:::* [[Help:Mul language code]]
:::* [[:de:Benutzer:M2k~dewiki/FAQ#Wikidata_-_language_code_mul_-_multiple_languages]]
:::[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:37, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]]: You won't be able to add a mul description ([[phab:T313027|T313027]]). [[User:Vahurzpu|Vahurzpu]] ([[User talk:Vahurzpu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:35, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
:An en dash is appropriate for English, but note that other languages use hyphens for this purpose, e.g. Spanish. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:33, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks, {{u|koavf|Justin}}. Do you happen to know if in the Spanish Wikipedia equivalent of the MOS there is anything about en dash usage? -- [[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] ([[User talk:Cl3phact0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:28, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
:::I don't immediately see that, but the section on dates ([[:wikt:en:fecha#Spanish|fechas]]) mentions using hyphens: [[:w:es:Wikipedia:Manual_de_estilo#Fechas]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
::::For completeness, there is an ongoing (stalled) RfC regarding dates in descriptions: [[Wikidata:Requests for comment/Use of dates in the descriptions of items regarding humans]]. --[[User:Epìdosis|'''Epì''']][[User talk:Epìdosis|<span style="color:green">'''dosis'''</span>]] 08:52, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, {{u|Epìdosis}}. Would it be useful to add my comment above (re: enwiki guidance for short descriptions) to the RfC you mention? -- [[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] ([[User talk:Cl3phact0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:08, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|Cl3phact0}} probably yes, to give a fuller view of the current situation. --[[User:Epìdosis|'''Epì''']][[User talk:Epìdosis|<span style="color:green">'''dosis'''</span>]] 10:46, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::{{done}} -- [[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] ([[User talk:Cl3phact0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:53, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] and @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]]: the use of en-dash in Spanish is actually noted in that same section of the MOS ("La inclusión de espacios y la sustitución del guion por una raya, o una semirraya, se consideran incorrectas y deben evitarse", which translates to "Adding spaces or substituting the hyphen with an em-dash or an en-dash is considered incorrect and should be avoided".) –[[User:FlyingAce|FlyingAce]]<sup>[[User talk:FlyingAce|✈hello]]</sup> 23:28, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::Clearly. As they say in Spain, "merci, meine Freund". —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::Indeed, Danke (amigo). One of the [https://www.certifiedchinesetranslation.com/Spanish/ortotipo.html sources] for [https://digital.gov/resources/spanish-language-style-guide-and-glossaries/spanish-language-style-guide-and-glossaries-grammar/ this page] seems to indicate that proper written Spanish uses the en dash in much the same way we do in English (see: "Ejemplos" in the section "El signo menos (–)"). This seems like the sort of detail that the various language wikis would want to have in sync. It also seems like a ''madriguera del conejo'' (which, it seems, is how the Spanish say "rabbit hole"). -- [[User:Cl3phact0|Cl3phact0]] ([[User talk:Cl3phact0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

== Wikidata weekly summary #588 ==

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* '''[[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]]'''
** Upcoming: [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/ Submit your proposal for GLAM Wiki Conference 2023]. Deadline has been extended to August 20, 23:59 anywhere in the world.

* '''Press, articles, blog posts, videos'''
** Blog: [https://itnext.io/creating-interactive-map-visualizations-of-settlements-with-wikidata-and-python-13e8e206acf5 Creating Interactive Map Visualizations of Settlements with Wikidata and Python]
** Videos: [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhV3K_DS5YfILLogVfycnWLC7s3E81p0b Wiki Workshop 2023 recording YouTube playlist]

* '''Tool of the week'''
** [https://wikishootme.toolforge.org/ WikiShootMe] expanded to make it possible to find the Items close to pictures you took so you can upload and add them to them ([http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=701 source])

* '''Other Noteworthy Stuff'''
** [[:d:Template:Synia|Template:Synia]] is a new template which makes it easy to create links to [[:d:Wikidata:Synia|Synia]] from Wikidata. [[:d:Template:Synia+|Template:Synia+]] guesses the relevant configuration pages for each entity depending on the values of P31 and P106. 
** [[:Wikifunctions:Main Page|Wikifunctions]], Wikidata's newest sibling project, had a soft launch. Welcome to the Wikimedia wikiverse, functioneers!
** The ORES service will be decommissioned and replaced by Lift Wing. If you have a tool that relies on ORES scores to judge edits or the quality of an Item please read the [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EK65B7QCQHEG37C2ERPIUSP64OX3ZEUJ/|migration announcement]]. We are collecting affected community tools in [[phab:T343419]].

* '''Did you know?'''
<!-- NEW PROPERTIES DO NOT REMOVE -->
** Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]]:
*** General datatypes: none
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P11925|National Union of Composers of Ukraine person ID]], [[:d:Property:P11926|Encyclopaedia Islamica ID]], [[:d:Property:P11927|Master's degree Mon master ID]], [[:d:Property:P11928|Virksomme ord ID]], [[:d:Property:P11929|‎Swetrails route ID]], [[:d:Property:P11930|European Bridge League ID]], [[:d:Property:P11931|CAMEO Chemicals ID]], [[:d:Property:P11932|The Literary Encyclopedia work ID]], [[:d:Property:P11933|IMVDb artist numeric ID]], [[:d:Property:P11934|Team France athlete ID]]
<!-- END NEW PROPERTIES -->
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** New [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review:
*** General datatypes: 
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/disinherited|disinherited]] (<nowiki>someone who received or will receive no or little the subject's property or title even if otherwise eligible, (partially) the opposite of [[Wikidata:Property proposal/heir or beneficiary]]</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/conference schedule|conference schedule]] (<nowiki>Conference schedule in Pentabarf XML format</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/state of transmission|state of transmission]]
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Works Diamond Catalogue ID|Works Diamond Catalogue ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Editions Diamond Catalogue ID|Editions Diamond Catalogue ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/NFSA ID|NFSA ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Identifiant Médiathèque Numérique CVS|Identifiant Médiathèque Numérique CVS]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/DCB Number|DCB Number]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/wadoku id|wadoku id]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/USP Libraries Catalogue ID|USP Libraries Catalogue ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Mémoire déposé sur DUMAS|Mémoire déposé sur DUMAS]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Experimental Factor Ontology ID|Experimental Factor Ontology ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/BG EGN|BG EGN]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Google Scholar Organization ID|Google Scholar Organization ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/fiba.basketball player ID|fiba.basketball player ID]]
<!-- END NEW PROPOSALS -->
** [[d:Wikidata:Properties for deletion|Deleted properties]]: 
** Query example: [https://w.wiki/7Cup Entry dates and discovery dates of the objects of the museum of Brittany] ([https://twitter.com/belett/status/1686648138583461888 source])

* '''Development'''
** EntitySchemas:
*** We continued the work on giving them the same termbox as Items and Properties ([[phab:T324235]])
*** We finished the work on showing the labels for EntitySchemas in Recent changes, All Pages, Watchlist and edit summaries ([[phab:T339924]], [[phab:T339921]], [[phab:T339925]], [[phab:T343231]])
*** We added missing messages related to IP editing and license notes ([[phab:T343333]], [[phab:T343118]])
** Wikibase REST API: We continued the work on the route for replacing the data of a statement on a Property ([[phab:T340006]])

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

* '''Monthly Tasks'''
** Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
** Comment on property proposals: [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open proposals]]
** [[d:Wikidata:Contribute/Suggested and open tasks|Suggested and open tasks]]!
** Contribute to a [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase item]].
** Help [[d:Special:LanguageStats|translate]] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
** [[d:User:Pasleim/projectmerge|Help merge identical items]] across Wikimedia projects.
** Help [[d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next|write the next summary!]]
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== Wikidata property for disjointness between two classes ==

There is {{P|2738}} for a class that is a disjoint union of several classes.   But I can't find a property to directly state that one class is disjoint from another.   Is there a way to state that two classes are disjoint in Wikidata?

Similarly, there are property constraints in Wikidata but is there a way to put a constraint on instances of a class?

[[User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider|Peter F. Patel-Schneider]] ([[User talk:Peter F. Patel-Schneider|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:03, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

:See [[Wikidata:Property proposal/disjoint with]]. [[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]] ([[User talk:GZWDer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:19, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
== Four Updates on the Private Incident Reporting Project ==

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Hello everyone. Sorry to use English. {{int:please-translate}}. 

For the past couple of months the Trust and Safety Tools team has been working on finalising [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Private Incident Reporting System#Phase_1|Phase 1]] of the Incident Reporting System project.

The purpose of this phase was to define possible product direction and scope of the project with your feedback. We now have a better understanding of what to do next.

# We are renaming the project as Incident Reporting System
# We have some feedback from researching some pilot communities to share with you
# We have updated the project’s overview
# We have the first iteration of the reporting extension '''ReportIncident'''

Please visit [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Private Incident Reporting System/Updates|the project's update page]] to get more details.

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== Graffiti cleaning top-list ==

There are at least two tools that gives patrolling statistics, [https://wdpd.toolforge.org/patrollers WDPD] and [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/patrollerstats/www.wikidata.org?actions=patrol XTools]. At least on Wikidata it seems the patrol count is not a good indicator of who cleans the most graffiti. Here's an overview over the efforts for the past ~30 days. It's based on automatic edit comments, and for simplicity it does not consider self-reverts, and it assumes editgroups undos are self-reverts. (click on 'expand' to show the table)

{| class="wikitable sortable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
!  !! User !! Edits !! Patrols !! Undos !! Restores !! EditGroups !! U+R-EG !! P+U+R
|-
| 0 || [[Special:Contributions/Quesotiotyo|Quesotiotyo]] || 232311 || 10 || 433 || 15 || 0 || 448 || 458
|-
| 1 || [[Special:Contributions/Xezbeth|Xezbeth]] || 24874 || 20 || 235 || 118 || 79 || 274 || 373
|-
| 2 || [[Special:Contributions/Vargenau|Vargenau]] || 2957 || 0 || 232 || 0 || 0 || 232 || 232
|-
| 3 || [[Special:Contributions/31.160.101.226|31.160.101.226]] || 1804 || 0 || 98 || 130 || 0 || 228 || 228
|-
| 4 || [[Special:Contributions/Roshkara|Roshkara]] || 333 || 0 || 100 || 124 || 0 || 224 || 224
|-
| 5 || [[Special:Contributions/Dbalinov|Dbalinov]] || 9588 || 0 || 222 || 0 || 0 || 222 || 222
|-
| 6 || [[Special:Contributions/Mykhal|Mykhal]] || 771 || 39 || 161 || 39 || 0 || 200 || 239
|-
| 7 || [[Special:Contributions/Florentyna|Florentyna]] || 88834 || 46 || 179 || 0 || 0 || 179 || 225
|-
| 8 || [[Special:Contributions/Madamebiblio|Madamebiblio]] || 6049 || 1 || 152 || 19 || 0 || 171 || 172
|-
| 9 || [[Special:Contributions/Infovarius|Infovarius]] || 4473 || 1231 || 216 || 22 || 73 || 165 || 1469
|-
| 10 || [[Special:Contributions/Ыфь77|Ыфь77]] || 7768 || 0 || 73 || 86 || 0 || 159 || 159
|-
| 11 || [[Special:Contributions/Danysan1|Danysan1]] || 899 || 0 || 155 || 2 || 0 || 157 || 157
|-
| 12 || [[Special:Contributions/Succu|Succu]] || 3209 || 0 || 98 || 53 || 0 || 151 || 151
|-
| 13 || [[Special:Contributions/Бучач-Львів|Бучач-Львів]] || 7029 || 0 || 122 || 8 || 0 || 130 || 130
|-
| 14 || [[Special:Contributions/Jahl de Vautban|Jahl de Vautban]] || 8979 || 0 || 143 || 21 || 35 || 129 || 164
|-
| 15 || [[Special:Contributions/Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] || 834 || 597 || 69 || 54 || 0 || 123 || 720
|-
| 16 || [[Special:Contributions/ItsMario97|ItsMario97]] || 943 || 1 || 74 || 40 || 0 || 114 || 115
|-
| 17 || [[Special:Contributions/31.200.13.45|31.200.13.45]] || 117 || 0 || 108 || 0 || 0 || 108 || 108
|-
| 18 || [[Special:Contributions/Jklamo|Jklamo]] || 6188 || 0 || 43 || 61 || 0 || 104 || 104
|-
| 19 || [[Special:Contributions/Haseeb55|Haseeb55]] || 3585 || 1 || 97 || 7 || 0 || 104 || 105
|-
| 20 || [[Special:Contributions/81.41.175.237|81.41.175.237]] || 1556 || 0 || 50 || 53 || 0 || 103 || 103
|-
| 21 || [[Special:Contributions/Swpb|Swpb]] || 4379 || 0 || 107 || 0 || 9 || 98 || 107
|-
| 22 || [[Special:Contributions/Moebeus|Moebeus]] || 45061 || 0 || 91 || 2 || 0 || 93 || 93
|-
| 23 || [[Special:Contributions/U. M. Owen|U. M. Owen]] || 5547 || 0 || 72 || 18 || 0 || 90 || 90
|-
| 24 || [[Special:Contributions/Wolverène|Wolverène]] || 3302 || 36 || 24 || 58 || 0 || 82 || 118
|-
| 25 || [[Special:Contributions/Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] || 196 || 21 || 82 || 0 || 0 || 82 || 103
|-
| 26 || [[Special:Contributions/5.179.170.233|5.179.170.233]] || 82 || 0 || 80 || 0 || 0 || 80 || 80
|-
| 27 || [[Special:Contributions/Gotitbro|Gotitbro]] || 314 || 0 || 79 || 0 || 0 || 79 || 79
|-
| 28 || [[Special:Contributions/LevandeMänniska|LevandeMänniska]] || 836 || 0 || 77 || 0 || 0 || 77 || 77
|-
| 29 || [[Special:Contributions/Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton|Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]] || 161 || 0 || 77 || 0 || 0 || 77 || 77
|-
| 30 || [[Special:Contributions/Dorades|Dorades]] || 1194 || 3 || 74 || 1 || 0 || 75 || 78
|-
| 31 || [[Special:Contributions/Seanetienne|Seanetienne]] || 928 || 0 || 67 || 5 || 0 || 72 || 72
|-
| 32 || [[Special:Contributions/M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] || 65840 || 12 || 37 || 34 || 0 || 71 || 83
|-
| 33 || [[Special:Contributions/Gymnicus|Gymnicus]] || 21620 || 0 || 30 || 40 || 0 || 70 || 70
|-
| 34 || [[Special:Contributions/Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] || 703 || 844 || 45 || 20 || 0 || 65 || 909
|-
| 35 || [[Special:Contributions/PKalnai|PKalnai]] || 3898 || 0 || 60 || 0 || 0 || 60 || 60
|-
| 36 || [[Special:Contributions/Elizium23|Elizium23]] || 391 || 0 || 28 || 31 || 0 || 59 || 59
|-
| 37 || [[Special:Contributions/FlyingAce|FlyingAce]] || 211 || 1 || 53 || 3 || 0 || 56 || 57
|-
| 38 || [[Special:Contributions/Horcrux|Horcrux]] || 15143 || 10 || 41 || 13 || 0 || 54 || 64
|-
| 39 || [[Special:Contributions/Fabe56|Fabe56]] || 2847 || 0 || 52 || 2 || 0 || 54 || 54
|-
| 40 || [[Special:Contributions/Solidest|Solidest]] || 4731 || 0 || 30 || 23 || 0 || 53 || 53
|-
| 41 || [[Special:Contributions/OBender12|OBender12]] || 9274 || 0 || 32 || 20 || 0 || 52 || 52
|-
| 42 || [[Special:Contributions/Valentina.Anitnelav|Valentina.Anitnelav]] || 11840 || 1 || 38 || 12 || 0 || 50 || 51
|-
| 43 || [[Special:Contributions/Frendy Aldo Tobing|Frendy Aldo Tobing]] || 588 || 0 || 49 || 0 || 0 || 49 || 49
|-
| 44 || [[Special:Contributions/Ovruni|Ovruni]] || 1961 || 0 || 23 || 26 || 0 || 49 || 49
|-
| 45 || [[Special:Contributions/Nw520|Nw520]] || 9757 || 0 || 40 || 5 || 0 || 45 || 45
|-
| 46 || [[Special:Contributions/Kareyac|Kareyac]] || 2616 || 1431 || 43 || 2 || 0 || 45 || 1476
|-
| 47 || [[Special:Contributions/Quick-O-Mat|Quick-O-Mat]] || 11068 || 12 || 43 || 0 || 0 || 43 || 55
|-
| 48 || [[Special:Contributions/Oravrattas|Oravrattas]] || 2147 || 0 || 29 || 12 || 0 || 41 || 41
|-
| 49 || [[Special:Contributions/Tm|Tm]] || 2497 || 0 || 19 || 22 || 0 || 41 || 41
|-
| 50 || [[Special:Contributions/Nk|Nk]] || 553 || 0 || 38 || 2 || 0 || 40 || 40
|-
| 51 || [[Special:Contributions/YANN92340|YANN92340]] || 3732 || 0 || 39 || 0 || 0 || 39 || 39
|-
| 52 || [[Special:Contributions/France3c0|France3c0]] || 1379 || 85 || 13 || 26 || 0 || 39 || 124
|-
| 53 || [[Special:Contributions/William Graham|William Graham]] || 30727 || 0 || 26 || 12 || 0 || 38 || 38
|-
| 54 || [[Special:Contributions/Andreasmperu|Andreasmperu]] || 280 || 1 || 30 || 7 || 0 || 37 || 38
|-
| 55 || [[Special:Contributions/Lymantria|Lymantria]] || 2272 || 0 || 31 || 6 || 0 || 37 || 37
|-
| 56 || [[Special:Contributions/知識熊|知識熊]] || 691 || 1612 || 28 || 8 || 0 || 36 || 1648
|-
| 57 || [[Special:Contributions/Sofie Geneea|Sofie Geneea]] || 478 || 0 || 36 || 0 || 0 || 36 || 36
|-
| 58 || [[Special:Contributions/Miikul|Miikul]] || 2236 || 0 || 35 || 0 || 0 || 35 || 35
|-
| 59 || [[Special:Contributions/Zedl|Zedl]] || 59 || 0 || 19 || 15 || 0 || 34 || 34
|-
| 60 || [[Special:Contributions/PaperHuman|PaperHuman]] || 59 || 7 || 31 || 2 || 0 || 33 || 40
|-
| 61 || [[Special:Contributions/71.172.27.187|71.172.27.187]] || 1134 || 0 || 30 || 2 || 0 || 32 || 32
|-
| 62 || [[Special:Contributions/Robotje|Robotje]] || 419 || 0 || 29 || 3 || 0 || 32 || 32
|-
| 63 || [[Special:Contributions/Miwako Sato|Miwako Sato]] || 46 || 0 || 1 || 31 || 0 || 32 || 32
|-
| 64 || [[Special:Contributions/Romaine|Romaine]] || 84844 || 0 || 29 || 2 || 0 || 31 || 31
|-
| 65 || [[Special:Contributions/Gintek|Gintek]] || 4593 || 0 || 29 || 2 || 0 || 31 || 31
|-
| 66 || [[Special:Contributions/Sangjinhwa|Sangjinhwa]] || 1145 || 0 || 0 || 30 || 0 || 30 || 30
|-
| 67 || [[Special:Contributions/Peter James|Peter James]] || 5710 || 0 || 15 || 15 || 0 || 30 || 30
|-
| 68 || [[Special:Contributions/Wostr|Wostr]] || 50240 || 0 || 10 || 20 || 0 || 30 || 30
|-
| 69 || [[Special:Contributions/Gikü|Gikü]] || 1474 || 23 || 15 || 14 || 0 || 29 || 52
|-
| 70 || [[Special:Contributions/Cookroach|Cookroach]] || 5905 || 0 || 0 || 28 || 0 || 28 || 28
|-
| 71 || [[Special:Contributions/Mahir256|Mahir256]] || 7443 || 0 || 11 || 17 || 0 || 28 || 28
|-
| 72 || [[Special:Contributions/NicoScribe|NicoScribe]] || 136 || 0 || 26 || 2 || 0 || 28 || 28
|-
| 73 || [[Special:Contributions/Jmax|Jmax]] || 1974 || 0 || 28 || 0 || 0 || 28 || 28
|-
| 74 || [[Special:Contributions/Multichill|Multichill]] || 2041 || 0 || 28 || 0 || 0 || 28 || 28
|-
| 75 || [[Special:Contributions/Olea|Olea]] || 3422 || 5 || 56 || 3 || 31 || 28 || 64
|-
| 76 || [[Special:Contributions/StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] || 5139 || 0 || 19 || 8 || 0 || 27 || 27
|-
| 77 || [[Special:Contributions/Dcflyer|Dcflyer]] || 1400 || 4 || 21 || 6 || 0 || 27 || 31
|-
| 78 || [[Special:Contributions/Karl Oblique|Karl Oblique]] || 176 || 25 || 26 || 1 || 0 || 27 || 52
|-
| 79 || [[Special:Contributions/Maundwiki|Maundwiki]] || 20165 || 0 || 20 || 7 || 0 || 27 || 27
|-
| 80 || [[Special:Contributions/Pallor|Pallor]] || 8914 || 3 || 23 || 4 || 0 || 27 || 30
|-
| 81 || [[Special:Contributions/Meno25|Meno25]] || 2012 || 0 || 1 || 25 || 0 || 26 || 26
|-
| 82 || [[Special:Contributions/BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] || 3875 || 284 || 9 || 17 || 0 || 26 || 310
|-
| 83 || [[Special:Contributions/Ysogo|Ysogo]] || 60104 || 0 || 26 || 0 || 0 || 26 || 26
|-
| 84 || [[Special:Contributions/Epìdosis|Epìdosis]] || 24427 || 602 || 7 || 19 || 0 || 26 || 628
|-
| 85 || [[Special:Contributions/Oursana|Oursana]] || 3648 || 0 || 25 || 0 || 0 || 25 || 25
|-
| 86 || [[Special:Contributions/Epicamused|Epicamused]] || 1220 || 0 || 7 || 18 || 0 || 25 || 25
|-
| 87 || [[Special:Contributions/186.29.182.192|186.29.182.192]] || 83 || 0 || 0 || 25 || 0 || 25 || 25
|-
| 88 || [[Special:Contributions/Yiyi|Yiyi]] || 14965 || 0 || 8 || 16 || 0 || 24 || 24
|-
| 89 || [[Special:Contributions/Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] || 9098 || 0 || 24 || 0 || 0 || 24 || 24
|-
| 90 || [[Special:Contributions/Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] || 19817 || 0 || 23 || 1 || 0 || 24 || 24
|-
| 91 || [[Special:Contributions/126.186.188.53|126.186.188.53]] || 40 || 0 || 0 || 24 || 0 || 24 || 24
|-
| 92 || [[Special:Contributions/Kris Simbolon|Kris Simbolon]] || 930 || 0 || 24 || 0 || 0 || 24 || 24
|-
| 93 || [[Special:Contributions/JhowieNitnek|JhowieNitnek]] || 4309 || 0 || 14 || 10 || 0 || 24 || 24
|-
| 94 || [[Special:Contributions/Kolja21|Kolja21]] || 7065 || 0 || 19 || 4 || 0 || 23 || 23
|-
| 95 || [[Special:Contributions/Tehonk|Tehonk]] || 31 || 0 || 21 || 0 || 0 || 21 || 21
|-
| 96 || [[Special:Contributions/GAN|GAN]] || 3814 || 0 || 1 || 20 || 0 || 21 || 21
|-
| 97 || [[Special:Contributions/5.11.99.206|5.11.99.206]] || 22 || 0 || 21 || 0 || 0 || 21 || 21
|-
| 98 || [[Special:Contributions/Stjn|Stjn]] || 234 || 1 || 11 || 10 || 0 || 21 || 22
|-
| 99 || [[Special:Contributions/Kirilloparma|Kirilloparma]] || 6808 || 61 || 14 || 7 || 0 || 21 || 82
|-
| 100 || [[Special:Contributions/Back ache|Back ache]] || 3312 || 0 || 21 || 0 || 0 || 21 || 21
|-
| 101 || [[Special:Contributions/Mastrocom|Mastrocom]] || 1107 || 0 || 14 || 7 || 0 || 21 || 21
|-
| 102 || [[Special:Contributions/Zhenqinli|Zhenqinli]] || 1280 || 0 || 20 || 0 || 0 || 20 || 20
|-
| 103 || [[Special:Contributions/Potapt|Potapt]] || 209 || 0 || 16 || 4 || 0 || 20 || 20
|-
| 104 || [[Special:Contributions/Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] || 2491 || 0 || 15 || 5 || 0 || 20 || 20
|-
| 105 || [[Special:Contributions/Facenapalm|Facenapalm]] || 43144 || 0 || 11 || 9 || 0 || 20 || 20
|-
| 106 || [[Special:Contributions/Nikki|Nikki]] || 3697 || 2 || 15 || 5 || 0 || 20 || 22
|-
| 107 || [[Special:Contributions/Taravyvan Adijene|Taravyvan Adijene]] || 5903 || 0 || 2 || 18 || 0 || 20 || 20
|-
| 108 || [[Special:Contributions/Hjart|Hjart]] || 3067 || 268 || 13 || 6 || 0 || 19 || 287
|-
| 109 || [[Special:Contributions/TKsdik8900|TKsdik8900]] || 176 || 3 || 16 || 1 || 0 || 17 || 20
|-
| 110 || [[Special:Contributions/Wooze|Wooze]] || 643 || 5 || 16 || 0 || 0 || 16 || 21
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| 111 || [[Special:Contributions/CaféBuzz|CaféBuzz]] || 40694 || 15 || 9 || 6 || 0 || 15 || 30
|-
| 112 || [[Special:Contributions/Maria zaos|Maria zaos]] || 10837 || 7 || 11 || 3 || 0 || 14 || 21
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| 113 || [[Special:Contributions/ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] || 4073 || 144 || 13 || 1 || 0 || 14 || 158
|-
| 114 || [[Special:Contributions/Mạnh An|Mạnh An]] || 986 || 116 || 0 || 13 || 0 || 13 || 129
|-
| 115 || [[Special:Contributions/Yahya|Yahya]] || 594 || 19 || 6 || 7 || 0 || 13 || 32
|-
| 116 || [[Special:Contributions/Estopedist1|Estopedist1]] || 443 || 550 || 6 || 7 || 0 || 13 || 563
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| 117 || [[Special:Contributions/Fralambert|Fralambert]] || 3971 || 13 || 5 || 5 || 0 || 10 || 23
|-
| 118 || [[Special:Contributions/Bdijkstra|Bdijkstra]] || 414 || 166 || 10 || 0 || 0 || 10 || 176
|-
| 119 || [[Special:Contributions/Mormegil|Mormegil]] || 2037 || 6 || 214 || 2 || 206 || 10 || 222
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[[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:54, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

== New Wikimedia Deutschland Staff working on Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects ==

Hello everyone!

I’m [[User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Danny]] and I am delighted to join Wikimedia Deutschland as a Community Communications Manager for the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team.

Since its inception, Wikidata has been invaluable in reducing the workload and maintenance of countless projects across many languages and as it has grown, the demands on the Wikidata team have increased. 

The establishment of this new team will translate to additional dedicated staff to develop and champion that initial goal of Wikidata: promoting the integration of Wikidata into the Wikimedia Projects!

My role as Community Communications Manager is to connect with editors, engage with communities, promote collaboration with developers, foster and encourage the integration of Wikidata with your projects.

Progress only happens with your input! 

Communication and community-centric development are guiding principles to Wikimedia Deutschland and our team exists to help you get the most out of Wikidata for your project.

To that end, we will soon be asking for your feedback, requests and starting conversations about how your project can benefit from Wikidata integration! 

I just wanted to say hello and am eager to connect with you in the coming months, whether in person or virtually at Meetups, or drop me a message at my ''[[User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Talk]]'' page or an email at:

danny.benjafield(at)wikimedia.de  

Best regards,

[[User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:17, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

:Hello everyone,
:My name is [[User:Ifeatu Nnaobi (WMDE)|Ifeatu]], and I'm writing to introduce myself as the Product Manager for the Wikidata and Wikimedia Projects team.
:The Wikidata for the Wikimedia Projects team is a new team at Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) that wants to provide structured data support to other Wikis in the Wikimedia movement. The team is part of the Linked Open Data (LOD) group at WMDE. It will work closely with Lydia Pintscher (Portfolio Lead Product Manager for Wikidata) and other LOD team members to establish sustainable structures to support collaborations between Wikidata and the other Wikimedia projects.
:I joined the team in June 2023, and current team member Danny Benjafield (Community Communications Manager) and I are exploring ways to build tools and features in a community-centred way. This means learning about existing initiatives between Wikidata and other Wikimedia projects and examining new insights into fostering Wikidata integrations that are collaborative, multilingual and provide high-quality data for projects of different shapes and sizes.
:My background is in interactive media focused on queer, feminist, and migrant narratives. As someone from the global majority, it's imperative to contribute to improving Wikidata's ability to accommodate diverse ways of knowledge contribution and consumption.
:As the new team settles in, our big task for the year is interacting with community members from various backgrounds and perspectives to understand what makes collaboration between Wikidata and Wikimedia projects challenging. Please stay tuned for our announcements on how we will do this.
:In the meantime, please email me (ifeatu.nnaobi@wikimedia.de) or leave a note on my [[User talk:Ifeatu Nnaobi (WMDE)|Talk page]] if you already have something to share.
:Thrilled to be here, --[[User:Ifeatu Nnaobi (WMDE)|Ifeatu Nnaobi (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Ifeatu Nnaobi (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:27, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
: Danny and Ifeatu, welcome on board.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:49, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
== Changing namespace broke interwiki ==

So recently Indonesian Wikisource changed its PROJECT namespace from "Wikisource" to "Wikisumber". Then I noticed pages in that namesource didn't link to other projects anymore, and only after I changed it manually like [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14206373&diff=prev&oldid=1946049232 this] that it will start linking the interwikis again.

Is this a known bug? Is there a quick way to solve this for all the pages in Project namespace? [[User:Bennylin|Bennylin]] ([[User talk:Bennylin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

:I did some more digging:
:* https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisumber:Hak_cipta still links to [[Q4375196]] even though it's listed as "Wikisource:Hak_cipta" on the item
:* https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisumber:Apakah_Wikisumber_itu%3F still links to [[Q15627752]] even though it's listed as "Wikisource:Apakah_Wikisumber_itu%3F" on the item
:* https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisumber:Karya links to [[Q23021069]] even though it's listed as "Wikisource:Karya" on the item
:* https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisumber:Bot doesn't link to [[Q4048867]] anymore
:* https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisumber:Pengurus doesn't link to [[Q4048254]] anymore
:* https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisumber:Portal_komunitas doesn't link to [[Q4654925]] anymore
:* https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisumber:Selamat_datang doesn't link to [[Q8990577]] anymore
:[[User:Bennylin|Bennylin]] ([[User talk:Bennylin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
:Yes, this is a known bug. The names are stored including the current namespace prefix. When it gets changed, it's necessary to massively replace them using a bot. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:35, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
::Is there a phabricator ticket for this? I'd like to subscribe if there's one. [[User:Bennylin|Bennylin]] ([[User talk:Bennylin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:53, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Not a ticket, but on a side note: I think this particular set of sitelinks has already been fixed by [[User:MatSuBot]] ([[User:Matěj Suchánek]]). My own bot [[User:MsynBot]] also tidies these cases weekly as a side effect of its task 8 (remove sitelinks to inexistent pages on client wikis). Not sure whether this needs more attention. —[[User:MisterSynergy|MisterSynergy]] ([[User talk:MisterSynergy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:58, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:::I am now aware of any, but even if there was, I don't think this will ever get fixed. Namespace prefix changes like that are very rare ("deus ex machina") and the disruption is marginal since the most used main namespace has no prefix. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:05, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

== Global ban for Бучач-Львів ==

Per the [[m:Global bans|Global bans]] policy, I’m informing the project of this request for comment: [[m:Requests for comment/Global ban for Бучач-Львів|RfC/Global ban for Бучач-Львів]]. --[[User:Jphwra|Jphwra]] ([[User talk:Jphwra|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:10, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

== Is there any way to interwiki link a ''section'' to an item? ==

For {{Q|4663309}}, is there some way to connect [[:foundation:Policy:Terms_of_Use#paid-contrib-disclosure]]? I wouldn't want to interwiki link the whole page. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:23, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

:if there'a redirect that points to that section then you can connect to the redirect page. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:You have to create the interwiki links to a redirect page. Redirect's can point to the section of an article. Depending on the WikiProject, creating such redirects might be within the rules for redirects or not. I don't know exactly how that works at the wiki of the foundation, but I would expect that they like people to easily access their policy. 
:Maybe answers@wikimedia.org is the place to ask for a creation of such a redirect? [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 18:36, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

== Help Improve Bad Edits Detection on Wikidata with the Annotation Tool ==

Hi everyone,

As you're likely aware, the Wikimedia Foundation's Machine Learning and Research teams have been working on migrating from ORES to Lift Wing — a new open-source machine learning infrastructure. This shift brings a host of new capabilities and simplifies the process of retraining models over time. (For more details, [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EK65B7QCQHEG37C2ERPIUSP64OX3ZEUJ/ see the previous announcement])

Lift Wing has already been trained using a dataset comprising reverted and patrolled edits. However, it would be extremely helpful to have additional new training data to help the model get even better at detecting problematic edits on Wikidata. Therefore, we need your help.

'''How You Can Contribute'''

The Research team built a tool to make your involvement easy and effective. This tool allows you to label new training data quickly and efficiently. You can find the tool here: [https://annotool.toolforge.org/ Annotation Tool]. It will show you an edit and ask you if you would keep or revert the edit. You can skip any you are not sure about.
By participating in this process, you're helping enhance the accuracy of the bad edits detection system on Wikidata, making it more robust and reliable.

If you encounter any issues or want to provide general feedback, feel free to leave us a note on this ticket [[phab:T341820]].

Cheers, -[[User:Mohammed Sadat (WMDE)|Mohammed Sadat (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Mohammed Sadat (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{re|Mohammed Sadat (WMDE)}} Clicking on links in the rendered revision diff information section takes you to a 404. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
:It would be good to have more information than just label + description to decide whether or not an edit makes sense or not. Especially if you use machine learning, having more data to make the decision is better. It would also good to show both label and description for both added and removed entries. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 16:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
== Issues for {{Q|892}} (important item) ==

There are a lot of issues about this important item:
*birth name (no ref)
*manner of death (no ref)
*Esperanto
*University of Oxford 
**academic degree
*genres
**translation
**literary studies
*Influenced by (no ref at all!)
*award recieved
**Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature (no ref)
*Historical Commission of the Bavarian Academy of Sciences
*Huijiwiki
*Los Angeles Review of Books author ID
Could you please help me fix them? Thanks.
Besides, a few days ago {{p|1411}} didn't require references and now it does. Why?
-- [[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

:Apparently is {{P|5705}} broken due to a redesign of the website. The latest snapshot from the internet archive is from December 5, 2022.[https://web.archive.org/web/20221205022105/https://www.lareviewofbooks.org/author-page/], but the "load more authors" button doesn't work anymore. What makes this property broken without repair. [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:30, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
::I was able to recover a snapshot, however the warning sign doesn't disappear even with deprecated rank and it yields this message: "The value for [[Property:P5705|Los Angeles Review of Books author ID]] (j-r-r-tolkien) should match the regex <code>[a-z]+-[a-z]+(-[a-z0-9]+)?</code>".-- [[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

== Poetry and prose as subclasses of literary work ==

According to the definition of Wikidata, a {{Q|47461344}} is ''any work expressed in writing, such as inscriptions, manuscripts, documents or maps''. A {{Q|3965271}} is ''class contained in some other class in the same way that a subset is a set contained in some other set''. Therefore, for a class to be a subclass of another, it must comply with the definition of the superclass and have specific characteristics that differentiate it. [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Ontology/Modelling The Wikiproject Ontology guidelines are also followed].

In this sense, {{Q|482}} (''literary style characterized by a strong expressiveness of words'') would not be a subclass of {{Q|47461344}}, but a {{Q|1437361}} (''way in which the elements of an art work are organised in contrast to its content''). What is a subclass is {{Q|5185279}}: ''work of poetry, often composed of verses''. Therefore, poetry is not a literary work itself, but a form of artistic expression.

Therefore, I propose that we put {{Q|482}} as a subclass of {{Q|1437361}} and not as a subclass of {{Q|47461344}}. I think that would improve and clarify the classification.

The same applies to {{Q|676}}. --[[User:Fantastoria|Fantastoria]] ([[User talk:Fantastoria|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

:Generally, I agree however it's not easy to change it. {{Q|482}} is used with {{P|31}} 16323 times. If we make the change you propose, most of those uses likely need to migrate to {{Q|5185279}}. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 21:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
:Poems need not be written down of course, poetry can be part of an oral tradition. Most are recorded on paper, but some could only recorded on audio recordings, or just passed on in the playground. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:58, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

::{{ping|ChristianKl}} It is a task that could be entrusted to a bot without major disruption.
::{{ping|Vicarage}} Touché, but I did not want to carry the discussion out there. However, instead of {{Q|47461344}}, let's say {{Q|386724}} (up a couple of steps in the classification) and the argument remains the same: poetry is style and the poem is work (written or not).
::--[[User:Fantastoria|Fantastoria]] ([[User talk:Fantastoria|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
:::You can certainly task a bot with doing that, but before doing so you have to be to deeply into the current uses and argue what you want to do. It likely also makes sense to ping a few people who are behind the current setup. Maybe ping people who added the model items that suggest the current use or raise the issue in the Wikiproject Source Metadata. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 20:47, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

== Best way to edit existing statements while preserving the reference? ==

Hi,
Is there a way to edit existing statements (in bulk) while preserving the reference?
I would use it for a bit of data cleanup. For example replace {{Q|380933}} with {{Q|180309}} in {{P|1329}} or replace capital letters in lower case letters in {{P|968}},... [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:30, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

:think you would need a bot (and optimally bot approval since those changes don't seem obviously good to me) [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:45, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
::Ok thanks but i will probably do it with OpenRefine and QS. It is a fairly small dataset of only Belgium, not all telephone numbers and e-mail addresses in Wikidata.
::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:16, 17 August 2023 (UTC)}}
== Is there any way to change the qualifiers suggested by properties locally? ==

Its really annoying not being able to have the qualifiers that i actually use regularly suggested and instead being given qualifiers that i have use for just because someone used a batch to make tens of thousands of statements once [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:05, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

:If possible, it sounds like it might be a good idea to give your usual qualifiers aliases that are more unique, that will come to the top of the suggested list when you start typing the alias. Though I recognise this is not always possible. [[User:ElDubs|ElDubs]] ([[User talk:ElDubs|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:55, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
::I am talking about the suggestions when you first open a statement [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:46, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:On a possibly related note, {{P|21}} always suggested {{Q|6581097}} and {{Q|6581072}} first, and it still does when the property is already present on an item. But when adding the property to a new item, {{Q|4759445}} has appeared at the top of the order for several weeks, and it is now joined by {{Q|121307094}} and {{Q|121307100}} as of a day or so ago. What determines the order? &mdash;[[User:Xezbeth|Xezbeth]] ([[User talk:Xezbeth|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:56, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:I managed to create my [[User:Matěj Suchánek/referenceSuggestions.js|own userscript]] to have {{P|248}}, {{P|813}} and {{P|854}} automatically suggested for references. It's definitely possible to adapt it to qualifiers according to one's needs. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:23, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
::Could you make a userscript for me? [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:53, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Trade|Trade]]: Try [[User:Matěj Suchánek/qualifierSuggestions.js]]. But the list of properties is in the code, so you need to make a copy for now. Later I might create something that will let user change their preference without making a copy. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:56, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you, I forked your script, it’s really helpful! --[[User:Emu|Emu]] ([[User talk:Emu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:55, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

== Is there data for country exports = ie. a country may export, iron, rubber, bananas etc. Does this data exist? ==

My question is if there are properties/data that can be entered regarding if a country exports certain materials or not. If there are properties for this, can you also go in further detailed SPARQL queries and ask say "How much does x country export in % of item y?"

Looking for example up the US on a G search I find the top 5 things that the USA exports to other countries is:
1. "Gasoline and Other Fuels"
2. "Crude Petroleum."
3. "Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) and Other Natural Gases."
4. "Civilian Aircraft Parts."
5. "Passenger Vehicles."

This does not tell me in % and how much. What if there was data that could tell how many % each category is used in a countries export per year, ie, how was the % in export of rubber in Thailand in 2020? Can you make this SPARQL query today in 2023 and we'll get results or is the system not in place to track it or is it irrelevant to track this because perhaps another linked data database has all the info we need, so no need for manual labor of Wikidatians?

Or does this data exist in another linked data database that Wikidata links to? If yes, does anyone know the name of that database that has the information? [[User:MythsOfAesop|MythsOfAesop]] ([[User talk:MythsOfAesop|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:51, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

:I think this would be a very muddled dataset to model, and would all depend on category. In your example you could lump the top 3 as Hydrocarbons. It would really only be useful if some organisation produced uniform statistics for a wide range of countries over significant time period, and made them public domain so they could be imported wholesale. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:21, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

== Problem merging ==

I am trying to merge "Étrier" Q3592555 to "aider" Q118746690 (they are the same thing, just two different languages), but when I run the "merge" tool it gives me an error in red letters "Currently only Qid/Lid is a valid input"? What I am doing wrong?. thanks. [[User:Aszx5000|Aszx5000]] ([[User talk:Aszx5000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:06, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

:I've merged Q118746690 into {{Q|Q3592555}} for you. Not sure why you were getting that error, though. [[User:M2Ys4U|M2Ys4U]] ([[User talk:M2Ys4U|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Aszx5000|Aszx5000]]: When you tried merging, did you put "Q118746690" into the field, or just "118746690"? That's the first thing that comes to mind; the Q has to be included. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 00:07, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
::That might be it - thank and much appreciated both! [[User:Aszx5000|Aszx5000]] ([[User talk:Aszx5000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:38, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
== Bad language binding ==

Article:[[:eo:Madarász (familia nomo)]].
I wrote the article, but in the wikidata language binding, sk (Slovak) is correct, de (German) is wrong. Why? [[User:Crosstor|Crosstor]] ([[User talk:Crosstor|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Crosstor}} By "language binding", do you mean links to dewiki, skwiki and so on? {{Q|25482310}} correctly only links sk and eo. The link to dewiki from [[:eo:Madarász (familia nomo)]] is because of a mistake on eowiki which I [https://eo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Madar%C3%A1sz_(familia_nomo)&diff=prev&oldid=8269195 just fixed]. Best wishes, [[User:Jonathan Groß|Jonathan Groß]] ([[User talk:Jonathan Groß|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:58, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

== John Broughton ==

I came across {{Q|15080841}}, author of ''Wikipedia: The Missing Manual'', who was born in 1674, and died 1720. This is quite an impressive feat! I've tried to work out what's happening here, and it looks like it might not just be the Wikidata item that's conflated these authors, but also maybe VIAF (and possibly some others). What's the best way to deal with this? [[User:Yodin|Yodin]] ([[User talk:Yodin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:58, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{Inprogress}} --[[User:Emu|Emu]] ([[User talk:Emu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:59, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Done}} Split into {{Q+|121411533}} and {{Q+|121411387}}. RfD request here: [[Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q15080841]] --[[User:Emu|Emu]] ([[User talk:Emu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:21, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Thanks! 👍 [[User:Yodin|Yodin]] ([[User talk:Yodin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:27, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
== Krokus (Q157806) ==

Hi there! I do not trust myself with what I am about to ask: this item is wrong as their should not be an article for Krokus. In Afrikaans it is a vernacular name for ''Crocus sativus''. Also, I have just created an article ''Crocus'' (genus) on the Afrikaans Wikipedia to be in line with all the other Wiki's. I hope it make sense. Can you assist met by removing Krokus and create Crocus? Groete! [[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]] ([[User talk:Oesjaar|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]]: I want to ensure I'm understanding correctly: you are wanting {{Q|Q157806}} to point to {{w|Crocus||af}}, and {{Q|Q15041677}} to point to {{w|Krokus||af}}? The confusing thing is that the {{w|Krokus||af}} article seems to be about both the genus and the ''Crocus sativus'' species. I would suggest fixing this issue. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 13:41, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
::In short, scrap ''Krokus'' and create a new ''Crocus''. The word Krokus has been used wrong on Wikidata. I will fix Krokus on Afrikaans - your remark is correct -  hence the reason for requesting this change. Groete! [[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]] ([[User talk:Oesjaar|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]]: If you are going to rewrite {{w|Krokus||af}} to focus on the species, then I will simply switch which wikidata item these articles are linked to. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 21:15, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Yes! [[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]] ([[User talk:Oesjaar|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:18, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

== Wikidata weekly summary #589 ==

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* '''Discussions'''
** New requests for permissions/Bot:
*** [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/MangadexBot|MangadexBot]] (Task: add metadata from mangadex to manga with [[d:Property:P10589|Mangadex manga ID]])
*** [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/WingUCTBOT|WingUCTBOT]] (Task: Batch Upload of Niger-Congo B Lexemes, including Senses and Forms)
** New request for comments: [[d:Wikidata:Requests for comment/Adapt blocking policy to IPv6 networks|Adapt blocking policy to IPv6 networks]] (Regarding the need to block IPv6 addresses and networks by a minimum /64 range )

* '''[[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]]'''
** Upcoming:
*** Wikimania 2023 (16–19 August, Singapore and Online) program is out: [[wikimania:2023:Program|wikimania:2023:Program]]
*** Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Working Hour August 18, 2023: Over the summer and into the fall the LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group will be offering a series of Wikidata Working Hours to give folks an opportunity to try out various Wikidata-related skills and tools by assembling a data set of diverse library and information science (LIS) materials (articles, conference proceedings, books) and adding it to Wikidata. Wikidata Working Hours provide hands-on Wikidata experience in a supportive space. We hope you will join us if you are interested in learning more about Wikidata, exploring LIS literature, and have been looking for a fun Wikidata project to contribute to. The first Wikidata Working Hour in the series will cover creating a bibliography of diverse LIS articles and books. We will generate a spreadsheet of sources ready for use during subsequent Working Hours. This session will be recorded and the recording shared on the event page. [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject_LD4_Wikidata_Affinity_Group/Wikidata_Working_Hours/2023-August-18_Wikidata_Working_Hour|Event page]]
** Past: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #104, [https://dicare.toolforge.org/lexemes/challenge.php?id=104 Police]

* '''Press, articles, blog posts, videos'''
** Blogs
*** [https://absolutelymaybe.plos.org/2023/08/02/some-things-i-like-about-the-expanding-wikipedia-universe/ Some Things I Like About the Expanding Wikipedia Universe]
*** [https://www.generalist.org.uk/blog/2023/gender-and-blps-on-wikipedia-redux/ Gender and BLPs on Wikipedia, redux]
*** [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/08/09/the-power-of-shared-value-partnership-cis-a2k-acpr-glam-project/ The Power of Shared Value Partnership: CIS-A2K & ACPR- GLAM Project]
*** [https://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/2023/08/blog-planets-blogging-about-debian.html Blog planets: blogging about Debian, GNOME, Wikimedia, FSFE, and many more]
** Papers
***[https://ceur-ws.org/Vol-3447/Text2KG_Paper_13.pdf Semantification of CEUR-WS with Wikidata as a target Knowledge Graph]
*** [https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.16659.pdf The World Literature Knowledge Graph]
*** [https://ceur-ws.org/Vol-3322/short1.pdf Building a French Revolution Narrative from Wikidata]
** Videos
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcx-d2JhjvA Adding Wikidata To Openstreetmap]
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2OdGib4Ido Recording mass paths on Wikimedia and Wikidata]
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaX3eGh8EeM FOSS4G 2023 - Tools for linking Wikidata and OpenStreetMap - Edward Betts]
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKM2biqHvBU SPARQLE session - Sport, rugby and units - Nicolas VIGNERON]
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDUvBuJ_NJ0 Virtual Inauguration: AfLIA Wikidata Online Course for Cohort 2]
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8tVpwDNsZw Live Wikidata editing (in Italian)]
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNxxX_3IHY0 KGC 2023 Masterclass: Wikibase and Question-Answering by The QA Company's CEO, Dennis Diefenbach]
** Notebooks
*** [https://observablehq.com/d/57763b5d48fe9825 SEmantic Graphs (SEG) - Cautiously nudging RDF towards more expressivity] (paper)
*** [https://observablehq.com/@fgregg/movies-settings-and-population Movie settings and population] (What is the relation between how big a city is and how many movies are set in that city?)
*** [https://observablehq.com/@maison-mona/je-wikidata Wikidata study day]
*** [https://observablehq.com/@getty/sparql-queries-for-data-cleanup SPARQL Queries for Cross-referencing and Data Cleanup]
** Presentations: [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1XlGUisIh8Tq5eGMaQEk5OehuxZwcfbocTlFtsY_yZ2Q/edit#slide=id.p1 Chemistry in Wikidata visualized with Scholia], Egon Willighagen et al.

* '''Tool of the week'''
** [https://everythingisconnected.toolforge.org/ Everything is connected] - is a knowledge-based puzzle game where players must fit square pieces representing entities in the world together based on their known connections.
** [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/F4SBNGUTRRB3DUL5CY5K4WG2TUVDNVXU/ WMF is moving from ORES to Lift Wing, an open-source machine learning infrastructure]. Your input is vital to train the model for more accurate bad edits detection on Wikidata. Join us in enhancing edits detection by using the Annotation tool: https://annotool.toolforge.org/

* '''Other Noteworthy Stuff'''
** [[d:Wikidata:Project_chat#New_Wikimedia_Deutschland_Staff_working_on_Wikidata_for_Wikimedia_Projects|Danny Benjafield and Ifeatu Nnaobi are joining the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team at Wikimedia Deutschland]]
** [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/4UL7ZBYE2WRGIBQZ3BHGDTVWPRXZ7T4E/ wikifunctions.org is gradually rolling out (with caveats)]

* '''Did you know?'''
<!-- NEW PROPERTIES DO NOT REMOVE -->
** Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]]:
*** General datatypes: none
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P11935|Tolkien Gateway ID]], [[:d:Property:P11936|Biblioteca centrale Cappuccini authority ID]], [[:d:Property:P11937|FSHF player ID]], [[:d:Property:P11938|Mandarin-Cantonese Comparative Study ID]], [[:d:Property:P11939|Internet Broadway Database touring theatre ID]], [[:d:Property:P11940|British Institute at Ankara person ID]], [[:d:Property:P11941|British Institute at Ankara place ID]], [[:d:Property:P11942|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal GTB ID]], [[:d:Property:P11943|GSAFD ID]], [[:d:Property:P11944|USP Libraries Catalogue ID]], [[:d:Property:P11945|Nantes Museum of Arts ID]], [[:d:Property:P11946|Mythoskop ID]], [[:d:Property:P11947|Lemmy community ID]], [[:d:Property:P11948|NFSA title ID]], [[:d:Property:P11949|PesticideInfo chemical ID]]
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<!-- NEW PROPOSALS DO NOT REMOVE -->
** New [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review:
*** General datatypes: 
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Steam Deck compatibility rating|Steam Deck compatibility rating]] (<nowiki>official rating used to determine which games, as a result of the review process, are compatible with Steam Deck and which are not</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/name version for other gender|name version for other gender]] (<nowiki>use for when names that are not given name or surnames are gendered (since those two have their own properties), would also be helpful for many noble titles and honorifics as well as affixes</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Curator of|Curator of]] (<nowiki>has curated a collection or (art) exhibition</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Philippine middle name|Philippine middle name]] (<nowiki></nowiki>)
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Rumble channel|Rumble channel]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/protected heritage site in Brussels ID (web)|protected heritage site in Brussels ID (web)]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/archINFORM Awards ID|archINFORM Awards ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/RCS number|RCS number]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/NFDI4Culture ID|NFDI4Culture ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Windows Package Manager Community package ID|Windows Package Manager Community package ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/AFC-Ajax.info player ID|AFC-Ajax.info player ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/FaroeSoccer referee ID|FaroeSoccer referee ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Steam curator ID|Steam curator ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Футзал.рус player ID|Футзал.рус player ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/alyga.lt player ID|alyga.lt player ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/CRIS Unique Site Number|CRIS Unique Site Number]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Höhlenkataster ID (Österreich)|Höhlenkataster ID (Österreich)]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Sitios ID|Sitios ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/FNAC ID|FNAC ID]]
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** Query examples: 
***  [https://w.wiki/78DD Map of places located in Rennes with an article on the French Wikipedia] (and colored according to the number of pages in all Wikimedia projects)
*** [https://w.wiki/7FGw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles weapon types, and primary colors] ([https://twitter.com/infovarius/status/1690826166066651136 source])
*** [https://w.wiki/7AqZ Number of albums in Wikidata by year of release] ([https://wikis.world/@wikidata/with_replies source])
*** [https://w.wiki/7FT9 Objects in Dresden with significant event] ([[d:Wikidata:Request_a_query#significant_event_and_time|source]])
** Newest [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects|WikiProjects]]:
*** [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Svenska Grillplatser|WikiProject Svenska Grillplatser]] (WikiProject Swedish Grill Places) - The idea is to see what Wikidata and OSM can contribute when it comes to barbecue sites and connections to municipalities, grillplatser.nu, naturkartan.
*** [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Nollywood|WikiProject Nollywood]] - This is a WikiProject for adding and enhancing items in Wikidata for Nollywood (Nigerian films) held as VHS at the [https://libguides.northwestern.edu/c.php?g=115173&p=749471 Northwestern University Melville J. Herskovits Library of African Studies]. These films were primarily produced and collected from 1990-2000. Items will be added with information from the catalog record (MARC).

* '''Development'''
** Wikibase REST API: We are working on adding and replacing statements on Properties ([[phab:T339363]], [[phab:T340006]])
** EntitySchemas:
*** We continued working on making the mobile termbox from Items and Properties work on EntitySchemas
*** We fixed a missing warning for non-logged-in editors and license note ([[phab:T343333]], [[phab:T343118]])
** IP Masking: We are investigating what implications the upcoming IP Masking changes in MediaWiki have for Wikibase ([[phab:T328454]])

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

* '''Monthly Tasks'''
** Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
** Comment on property proposals: [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open proposals]]
** Contribute to a [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase item]].
** Help [[d:Special:LanguageStats|translate]] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
** [[d:User:Pasleim/projectmerge|Help merge identical items]] across Wikimedia projects.
** Help [[d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next|write the next summary!]]


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== Which i18n way [[Template:Anonblock]] is using? ==

The main page of this template looks like have some subpages for language editions, but {{tl|Anonblock/text}} also exists which uses [[Special:Translate]] subpage, I wonder if there are reasons either ways are used for same template? [[User:Liuxinyu970226|Liuxinyu970226]] ([[User talk:Liuxinyu970226|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:50, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

== Cleanup needed at United States Postmaster General ==

See [[Talk:Q1753094]] for the compiled table, we are still missing a few and have error messages. Anyone else want to help out? [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:08, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
== Rename/move an item (disambiguation) ==

How do you rename/move an item? Is this only available to administrators? If so, how can I request an item rename/move? I couldn't find this topic in the FAQ. For example, {{I|Centre Mountain}} currently is setup for the mountain by this name in Alberta. However, this item needs to be renamed to {{I|Centre Mountain (Alberta)}} and {{I|Centre Mountain}} needs to become a disambiguation page. I see this issue on a number of item pages relating to mountains. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

:In Wikidata its not a problem for items to have the same label, if their description makes them unique. So "Snowy Mountain" is fine for both any mountains of that name and the disambiguation page provided the description says "mountain in Alberta" etc. Parentheses should be avoided. For things that could be confused we have paired {{P|1889}} statements. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:43, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:If a page is linked to a Wikidata item and is moved, it will (usually) automatically be updated in Wikidata. You can make changes as well by scrolling down to the bottom of an item and editing the Wikipedia pages and adding an entry by language code of the Wikipedia project. I went through and linked {{q|Q22457057}} and {{q|Q22457079}} to what I think are the correct articles in enwiki. -- [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:45, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:*Ok, thanks. So just a matter of updating/adding the relevant language links to fix it. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:58, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
*So, on the disambiguation page {{q|22144159}}, are we supposed to add links to the other Centre Mountain pages on Wikidata? [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
*:You can. You would use something like {{statement||P1889|Q22457057|P1013|Q24005632}}, and reciprocate the same structure on the other item's page back to the disambig page. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 01:24, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
*::I have added that property to the related pages. Thanks. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:28, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

== Do I use "stated in" two times if I use a Wayback Machine link in the references field ==

ie. let's say that I have a New York Times link as a source for a statement in the references field and it's an archived link from Wayback Machine.

Do I:

1. Add two statements, that it has been stated 
A in the Wayback Machine and
B in the New York Times

OR

2. Only add one statement that it has been stated in the New York Times or only that it has been stated in the Wayback Machine?

Which one of these two/three options are correct? [[User:MythsOfAesop|MythsOfAesop]] ([[User talk:MythsOfAesop|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

:The Wayback machine archives, it doesn't assert anything, so use a wayback link but mention the NYT as the source. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
::presumably {{P|P1065}} too [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
:::This. When using Wayback links, I always couple the base url in {{P|854}} with the Wayback url in {{P|1065}}, for completeness. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 00:31, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

== Property constraint - exception ==

Technically, would it be possible to amend the {{P|2302}} on {{P|225}}, whereby there is {{Q|21502838}} {{P|687}}, so that there is an {{P|2303}} (is this the right exception?) where use of BHL page id as an identifier <small>(separately from and in addition to its use as a taxon name reference)</small> is qualified by {{P|3831}} {{Q|1361864}}? (As an example, {{Q|12009011}}), thanks, [[User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|Maculosae tegmine lyncis]] ([[User talk:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:45, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

== Associating a restaurant with one or more books ==

Is there a property to associate a restaurant with 1 or more books that it has released or is associated with? For example, [[Q17500669|Hawksmoor]] has released [[Q121666086|Hawksmoor: Restaurants & Recipes]]. [[User:Alex Chamberlain|Alex Chamberlain]] ([[User talk:Alex Chamberlain|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]])
* Properties exist to describe relationships and usually not just associations. What kind of relationship do you believe the book has with the restaurant? [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 22:20, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
*Is Hawksmoor the editor, or the publisher? --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:57, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

:The 2 authors are 2 of the founders of the Hawksmoor restaurants. The book itself talks about the origin of the restaurants, as well as having a lot of recipes inspired by the restaurants favourite dishes. The publisher is an independent, well established industry publisher as far as I can tell. The book is sold in the restaurant, as well as bookstores.
:Note that this is not an uncommon relationship- Dishoom (another well regarded restaurant in London) sells a book of the same name. Similarly, Borough Market in south London has 2 associated cookbooks. [[User:Alex Chamberlain|Alex Chamberlain]] ([[User talk:Alex Chamberlain|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:01, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
::There's main subject, from the book to the restaurant? [[User:Azertus|Azertus]] ([[User talk:Azertus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:05, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Yes, I think that could work? [[User:Alex Chamberlain|Alex Chamberlain]] ([[User talk:Alex Chamberlain|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:24, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
* We also have "described by source=" at the restaurant entry and you can add in the name of the book. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
* Added main subject and described by source to each entry - thanks all! [[User:Alex Chamberlain|Alex Chamberlain]] ([[User talk:Alex Chamberlain|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]){{Section resolved|--[[User:Alex Chamberlain|Alex Chamberlain]] ([[User talk:Alex Chamberlain|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:31, 22 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Editing musician items - connecting stage name to real name ==

[[Q11248508|Temple]] is an musical alias/side-project for [[Q11627691|Gōta Nishidera]] .  What is the proper way to represent this in Wikidata?  

Also, is there a general "editing music items in WikiData" howto document that I should be reading? [[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] ([[User talk:Bsammon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

:"Connecting stage name to real name"
:Well, {{Q|19848}} has a few aliases you can base your item on. ie. she got Jo Calderone, Stefani Germanotta etc. Visit that item and you'll see, then just use that item as a template for whatever artist you are interested in. [[User:MythsOfAesop|MythsOfAesop]] ([[User talk:MythsOfAesop|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:38, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks, that's probably better than the example I came up with -- David Bowie & Ziggy Stardust -- Ziggy Stardust is linked as a fictional character played by David Bowie. [[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] ([[User talk:Bsammon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:05, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
::Looking at the Lady Gaga example a bit more, I'm not sure what lesson to take from it.  In the case I am looking at, there is [[Q11248508]] and [[Q11627691]], both of which are the same person.  I'm thinking they should either be merged (with the WD-item pointing to both wikipedia items) or there should be some sort of property/relationship linking both items, with a property-name like "performs as" or "stage name" or something like that. 

::Thoughts?  Is there a precedent or policy to follow?
[[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] ([[User talk:Bsammon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:20, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Okay, found [[Wikidata:WikiProject Music]].  I looked for a bit, and didn't find anything in their documentation that answered my question.  And I didn't find any good place for WikiProject-Music disussion -- I did see a note that "The community primarily communicates on Telegram"  -- and I don't use Telegram, and don't plan to start using it in the near future (does it require a smartphone?)

So it would appear my best option is to hope for answers here.
--[[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] ([[User talk:Bsammon|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:59, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

:We can't merge the two pages as it contains two separate Japanese Wikipedia articles. The nearest thing I can see is the case of {{Q|Q3002397}} as {{Q|Q1055303}} of {{Q|Q314206}}. [[User:Bluemask|Bluemask]] ([[User talk:Bluemask|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:39, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
== Maintenance ==

Are there any kind of maintenance categories, like on Wikipedia? I find myself at a loss for what to do; I'd love a simple category to work through. [[User:Edward-Woodrow|Edward-Woodrow]] ([[User talk:Edward-Woodrow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:26, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

:Hi Edward, if you are interested in authority files, this maintenance list still needs help: [[Property talk:P227/Constraint violations/Single best value constraint (humans died before 1851)]]. As an instruction manual see [[Help:P227]] --[[User:Kolja21|Kolja21]] ([[User talk:Kolja21|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:53, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

:[[Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations|Constraint violations reports]] are a good source of things to do. Just look for one property related to something you like and see what it's constraint report says. Also you can find links to [https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/ Mix&match] catalogs on some properties, which assists in adding identifiers to items on Wikidata, another great way to kill some time. I've made some reports myself, such as the one for [[Wikidata:WikiProject_property_constraints/reports/label_language/by_language/missing|missing labels by language]]. You can also join a [[:Category:WikiProjects|Wikiproject]] to work on things related to stuff you are interested in. [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot! I'm interested in taxa, so there's plenty of work to do. [[User:Edward-Woodrow|Edward-Woodrow]] ([[User talk:Edward-Woodrow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Edward-Woodrow]]: Have you come across [[:en:Wikipedia:PetScan|PetScan]]? eg [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?outlinks_yes=&output_compatability=catscan&manual_list_wiki=&wpiu=none&referrer_name=&ns%5B0%5D=1&show_disambiguation_pages=both&format=html&cb_labels_no_l=1&templates_yes=&show_redirects=both&language=sr&pagepile=&depth=8&larger=&psid=25653393&ores_prob_to=&wikidata_label_language=&active_tab=tab_categories&since_rev0=&cb_labels_yes_l=1&show_soft_redirects=both&manual_list=&wikidata_prop_item_use=P171&sitelinks_any=&referrer_url=&search_max_results=500&min_redlink_count=1&edits%5Bflagged%5D=both&langs_labels_yes=&outlinks_any=&sortorder=ascending&cb_labels_any_l=1&common_wiki=auto&search_query=&links_to_all=&subpage_filter=either&interface_language=en&search_wiki=&project=wikipedia&sitelinks_no=&categories=Изумрли+сисари&output_limit= here] is a list of extinct mammal taxa originally created on Serbian wikipedia where (via the wikidata tab) there is a wikidata item, but as yet no parent taxon; eg [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q85990341&diff=1954545189&oldid=1121323864 here]'s one "fixed" earlier, [[User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|Maculosae tegmine lyncis]] ([[User talk:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Maculosae tegmine lyncis}} Hello again! :) Yes, I've used PetScan before, but I wasn't aware it cut be used for Wikidata. I'll try it out. Thanks, [[User:Edward-Woodrow|Edward-Woodrow]] ([[User talk:Edward-Woodrow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:29, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
* See also above [[Talk:Q1753094]], we have dozens of charts that need cleanup. Most mayors of cities do not have succession charts yet. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:30, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

== Request for linking a language in Feyenoord ==

Hello everyone, the article of the football club [[:es:Feyenoord|Feyenoord]] in spanish wikipedia has been moving to his new ubication (previously, his name was “Feyenoord de Rotérdam”). The problem is that [[Q134241|his wikidata page]] is semi-protected and [[:es:Feyenoord|his article]] in the spanish wikipedia is unlinked. Anyone can be replace the label of the element in spanish for “Feyenoord”? Beforehand thank you very much! [[User:Loft-ind|Loft-ind]] ([[User talk:Loft-ind|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:45, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

== Unable to add Positioning property for Smartphone ==

Hi, I was trying to add '''Positioning''' as GPS, GLONASS and BDS (source ref: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-9513.php) for a wikidata item {{Q*|60872929}} but unfortunately the property '''Positioning''' was not present. Is there any other property related to Positioning, so that I can add all those three satellite navigation system that Redmi Note 7 supports according to the source. [[User:Rocky 734|Rocky 734]] ([[User talk:Rocky 734|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:04, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

:Oddly enough, there is no specific Wikiproject for smartphones/mobile phones or even telecommunications. So there is no standard for articles about mobile phones (types). At least you can try to discuss it on [[Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics]]. [[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:30, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::I asked a similar question here about assigning technologies to items last week, and got no response. We don't seem to have a policy. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks for letting me know @[[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]].I will ask there. [[User:Rocky 734|Rocky 734]] ([[User talk:Rocky 734|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:08, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
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:::: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Positioning was created, but is getting no traction. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

== Citing references for translations ==

Hello, I hope you're all doing fine! I would like to inquire how to cite sources for translations in items. For example, I have item [[d:Q112205733]], where I have added the translation to Slovene. Now this Slovene word appears in a certain document published in 1978 ([[d:Q121423460]]). I have tried to cite it as the source to ensure verifiability but I always get an error message. How should I proceed with that? --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] ([[User talk:TadejM|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:17, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

:Are you familiar with Lexemes?
:I added this in the search field:
:> L:turistifikacija
:but it gave me no results so obviously nobody has added it yet, but I tried with another word: {{L|14346}}. I think this Lexeme may not answer your query completely but it has 1 feature which I think you'll find interesting. This Lexeme links back to the item it's about through the {{P|P5137}} property. So {{L|14346}} links to {{Q|Q49389}}. 
:In a similar way we could create the Lexeme for your contributed Slovenian word but as a Lexeme. Wikidata is a big database of Lexemes and finding a lexeme shouldn't be too hard, I can offer you my help with that even though I'm a bit new to Lexemes myself.
:I haven't found a solution yet to your question but I'm looking for it. So far I'm [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Request_a_query&oldid=1954720127#Lexemes_in_the_Slovenian_language looking for a query which includes Lexemes in the Slovenian language] and when I get it I'll help you further. [[User:MythsOfAesop|MythsOfAesop]] ([[User talk:MythsOfAesop|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
:Ok, I got the help I needed, the query listed in this permanent link, will execute a Wikidata Query that should find 32 lexemes in the Slovenian language: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Request_a_query&diff=next&oldid=1955274441#Lexemes_in_the_Slovenian_language
:As you keep on adding more lexemes(or if other people do) the list will increase in size. You can do the same as I did by requesting a query, if you need to sort the lexemes in more precise categories. I had asked for a query that included also the property {{P|1343}} but none of the lexemes included any so it didn't make sense to search for it, I checked them all by hand just to be sure.
:<br>
:Thank you for creating {{L|1148144}}. [[User:MythsOfAesop|MythsOfAesop]] ([[User talk:MythsOfAesop|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, [[User:MythsOfAesop|MythsOfAesop]]. Thanks a lot for providing detailed help. I will check this out. --[[User:TadejM|TadejM]] ([[User talk:TadejM|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:56, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

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== Issues with name items ==

I get the feeling that there is a ton of crossover with several types of nicknames, surnames etc and that these there has been several cases of merges with items like these {{Q|4116295}}, {{Q|15635173}}, that don't always end up making sense. I've been trying to move around and clean up a lot here but I can't read all these languages so its hard for me to really get if the links that are left are really about the same things. [[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:05, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
: {{ping|StarTrekker}} If you weren't already aware, [[Wikidata:WikiProject Names]] should be all about these name questions. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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== Adding a list of languages to an app ==

I want to add a list of languages, that an android application supports ({{Q|Q550315}}). But I can see only one property '''language of work or name''' with value '''multiple languages''' . Can I add individual languages to the list. If not, is their any other property that fulfills my need.

Thanks [[User:Rocky 734|Rocky 734]] ([[User talk:Rocky 734|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:32, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{re|Rocky 734}} I'm not an expert in this area of wikidata but I think it would be fine to list all the languages. I'm guessing that the person who set it up before you just didn't bother to list them all out because it's tedious. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:23, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks @[[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] got it.:-) [[User:Rocky 734|Rocky 734]] ([[User talk:Rocky 734|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:20, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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== family name or Wikimedia category ==

There are about 800 items [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=25673336 psid=25673336] in enwikipedia classified in the "Category:Surnames" and in dewikipedia classified in the "Kategorie:Begriffsklärung" (Disambiguation). Can/may/showld I replace P31=Q4167836 (Wikimedia category) to P31=Q101352 (family name) ? [[User:JotaCartas|JotaCartas]] ([[User talk:JotaCartas|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:12, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:JotaCartas|JotaCartas]] <i>You probably mean Q4167410, not Q4167836.</i> And no, the scope (instance) of the entities in Wikidata should only be changed in exceptional cases. Keep the items as disambiguation pages and move the English sitelinks corresponding to surnames to the surname items. Eg. {{Q|Q5580397}} => {{Q|Q37432703}}, if you want. [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you for your  answer, I will folow your advice [[User:JotaCartas|JotaCartas]] ([[User talk:JotaCartas|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
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== Delosperma ecklonis vs. Delosperma invalidum ==

Hi guys! According to KEW Plants of the World Online are these two plant independent species. Can somebody please look into this? Groete uit Suid-Afrika! [[User:Oesjaar|Oesjaar]] ([[User talk:Oesjaar|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:09, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
: They are, see [https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-662-49260-4_43 here] (2017). --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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== {{Q|Q109328751}} and {{Q|Q106353292}} ==

Should we merge these two items?--[[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:16, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

:A black Briton, Frenchman or Italian is not an African-American man-- [[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:55, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:Why would we? [[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:27, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:No. The latter is a subset of the former (at most: there could be persons belong to the ethnic group African-Americans who would not consider themselves or be considered members of the racial group black, e.g. {{Q|3565918}}). —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
::As I was strongly and vociferously informed on enwiki when I inquired about Elon Musk, "African-American" is clearly defined as a Black person of African descent. I don't know how Mr. White fits in. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:55, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Elon Musk counting as African-American or not has no impact on the fact that all black men are not Americans.[[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:12, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Certainly! I was answering Koavf, you see, about A-A being a subset of black, whuch it clearly is. There can be no non-Black African-Americans. Thanks. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:40, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::This may be news to you, but some persons are multi-racial. If you took even the mildest time to do research at [[:w:en:Walter White (NAACP)]], you would know that White had some African-American ancestry. If you're still not motivated to actually go there and learn about the topic: "I am a Negro. My skin is white, my eyes are blue, my hair is blond. The traits of my race are nowhere visible upon me." Of his 32 great-great-great-grandparents, only five were black, and the other 27 were white. Does that explain it for you? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:47, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::Yes, and you seem quite hostile again towards me. Please consider being polite.
::::::I looked into Mr. White's situation, and I would definitely say that it's entirely distinct from Elon Musk. 
::::::Though often passing for white, White certainly acknowledged his Black African lineage. Whereas, Musk's lineage is entirely White, outside of Africa, (but remarkably not Afrikaner?) so by any measure, Musk can't be classified either as Black or African-American.
::::::Of course the question of multi-raciality raises the perilous question, "What is Black?" Is it "one drop" of Black heritage? Is it a certain hue of the epidermis and/or physical features that are measurable? Is it self-identification? Might be up for interpretation. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:40, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::You are correct that it is completely unrelated to Elon Musk. Did you do any kind of research before writing [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat&diff=prev&oldid=1956746933 this comment]? "Though often passing for white, White certainly acknowledged his Black African lineage": correct, this was in no way in dispute. The point I was making is that he is a white person who is also a member of the African-American people. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
::::"all black men are not Americans": some black men are, just not all black men are Americans. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:47, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
::::: We categorize Caucasian men from Africa that migrated to the United Sates by their ''country'' of origin, not their ''continent''. So Elon Musk would be a South African-American, another would be a Rhodesian-American or a Botswanan-American. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:48, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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== Is it possible to add a label/description in a foreign language? ==

Is it possible to add a label/description in a foreign language (not included in the existing Wikipedia pages) without creating another item and merging it?-- [[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:31, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

:The languages of the existing Wikipedia pages are irrelevant to the label/description shown. For languages that don't already have a label or description Wikidata shows you empty field for those that are in your babel languages of your profile.
:If you want to add a label or description that's not in your babel you can click on "Labels List" and then on "Edit". [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 09:46, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::Perhaps that works for you, but not for me. I asked about this earlier and nobody was able to answer why I can't.
::There's no such button as "Labels List" anywhere. If I go to an item, I see the language labels in my Babel. Now I see "⯈In more languages" at the top; when clicked, it collapses that box. At bottom, I see a link "All entered languages", and when clicked, exposes all labels with data entered into them.
::What this link does not expose is labels with no data entered yet. So it's a Catch-22! If nobody's entered data yet, than I can't do so either! But if I can't enter data in the first place, then the blanks don't show up for me to add stuff. Weird. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:54, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] it's a gadget. [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:30, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]]: do you mean "labelLister"? No it's not. I've had it enabled since the last conversation, and the behavior is as above, not exposing any blanks for me. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:06, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Hello {{Ping|Carnby}} please see
::::[[File:LabelLister.png|thumbnail]]
::::* [[:d:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]] → "labelLister" 
::::* https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Wikidata_Gadgets_slides_from_LD4_Wikidata_Affinity_Group_Meetings_Dec2019.pdf#page=10
::::* [[:de:Benutzer:M2k~dewiki/FAQ#Wie_kann_ich_Labels_/_Bezeichnungen_/_Beschreibungen_in_mehr_als_vier_Standard-Sprachen_bearbeiten_?]]
::::* [[:d:Help:Multilingual]]
::::* [[:d:User:Jitrixis/nameGuzzler.js]]
::::* [[:d:MediaWiki talk:Gadget-autoEdit.js]]
::::* [[:d:Wikidata:Tools/Edit items]]
::::[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:09, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::The standard languages are defined using the language babel on the userpage, for example [[User:M2k~dewiki]] [[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:10, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]], can you describe exactly where and how this is activated? The gadget appears to have zero documentation or help files, and there is no obvious button or link that I have found to get that dialog box you are displaying to us. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:14, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::[[:d:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]] → "labelLister" → activate checkbox → Save settings
::::::After activation you get a link as shown in 
::::::* https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Wikidata_Gadgets_slides_from_LD4_Wikidata_Affinity_Group_Meetings_Dec2019.pdf#page=10
::::::[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::No, you don't get any such link. There is no link to activate it there or anywhere else. I've done Ctrl+F on the whole page. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:21, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::And there it is, labelLister is mired in Vector 2010, and is not compatible with Vector 2022. It looks like I'll need to switch skins every time I intend to use this Gadget. Is it supported or updated anymore, or simply abandonware? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:23, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::::An alternative to the labelLister-Gadget might be using the babel-languages-template on the user page for setting the standard languages
::::::::* [[Help:Multilingual#Items_and_properties]]
::::::::* [[Help:Navigating_Wikidata/User_Options#Babel_extension]]
::::::::[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::So @[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] has chosen to unilaterally revert my edits to the help pages without discussion, where I warned Vector 2022 users that labelLister is incompatible, and she insists it works for her, but nothing I do to my own account, except disabling the skin, will make it work. What is going on? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:35, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] Have you tried it with another browser or in incognito mode? Maybe there is a conflict with some browser extensions/settings/cache... [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:28, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes. No conflicts. Totally consistent across 3 disparate devices, including mobile and desktop views. I use zero extensions. Remember, it worked immediately once I enabled Vector 2010. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:19, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::Isn't there a way to invoke "safe mode" on a Wiki page? How is that done on Wikidata? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:29, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::I have confirmed that the author abandoned his account two years ago. If administrators prohibit me from noting this incompatible status on help pages, then I sincerely pity the next person who struggles for as many months as I did, to understand why it doesn't do what it says on the tin. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::Hello {{Ping|Elizium23}} you could open a task on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ with the problem description
::::::::::::Also see [[Help_talk:Multilingual#LabelLister:_Issue_with_Vector_2022_(vs._Vector_2010)]] [[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::{{done}} {{phab|T344661}} [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:02, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::@[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]], @[[User:Nikki|Nikki]], okay, well, my bad. They closed this bug as "Invalid", because labelLister works fine. The link is found in the right-hand sidebar, or the tools menu if sidebar is hidden. I could have sworn that I looked there once, but I suppose I didn't look hard enough? Anyway, I found it, works for me, sorry for the confusion.
:::::::::::::Although I suppose that the documentation should be updated in light of widespread use of Vector 2022. I'm sure I won't be the only confused dude. Unfortunately, the tool is indeed abandoned, since the author's last edit was two years ago. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:09, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::For me it works. Thank you.-- [[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:01, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== De-merging an entry (Two people merged incorrectly) ==

Hi there, can someone help me with [[Q75796830]] - this UK person (George Lovett Bennett,  1846-1916) is not the same as the American photographer George C Bennett. Their data seems to have been mixed up; there are some references to George C Bennett but the entry is mostly about George Lovett Bennett. 

Most of the entry relates to the Victorian Latinist, so I would like help to move the George C Bennett data into a different / new entity. It's beyond my skill level unfortunately. [[User:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[User talk:JimKillock|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:46, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
:There was a separate item, [[Q86109818]], which was merged after some wrong identifiers had been added and names had been changed; I've restored a version of Q86109818 and moved some statements (using moveClaim, which can be enabled in the Gadgets tab of Preferences and adds a move button to statements). The VIAF and WorldCat Identities ID are still mixed up, but I've kept them in Q75796830 as the works in VIAF are by George Lovett Bennett and the WorldCat is based on the Library of Congress authority ID there. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:18, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks very much, that seems to be the right set of changes. Quite a coincidence on their names and years of birth / death being so close. [[User:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[User talk:JimKillock|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Obituaries, split ==

Hello. I think that [[Q6862675]] should be split because it contains categories related to two different meanings of the word "Obituary": the register of deaths (in Wikipedia) and the biographies of recent deaths (in Wikisource and Wikiquote). Do you agree? --'''[[User:Superchilum|<span style="color:#209090;">Superchilum</span>]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Superchilum|talk to me!]])</sup> 19:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
:I agree, different {{P|4224}} for each. I restored the separate item [[Q15629096]]. I removed some labels from Q6862675 but I'm not sure if they should be added to Q15629096; there are others that I don't know whether to move or not. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:55, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{ping|Peter James}} thank you very much :-) --'''[[User:Superchilum|<span style="color:#209090;">Superchilum</span>]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Superchilum|talk to me!]])</sup> 14:34, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)}}
== Merging proposal ==

Are {{Q|11878157}} and {{Q|1620786}} the same item?-- [[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
{{Section resolved|1=Carnby}}

== Uploading the Malta 2021 census data on Wikidata ==

I would like to upload census data on Wikidata, so that the related articles on Wikipedia be automatically updated. Problem is, I don't know how to :) So far I have found the following:
* the [https://nso.gov.mt/census-of-population-and-housing/ tables from the 2021 Malta census] (click under "selected indicators"); [https://nso.gov.mt/access-and-re-use-of-data/ here] the policy on re-use of data, it seems compatible with Wikidata to me
*  a [https://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Populating_Wikipedia:_New_tool_integrating_Australian_Census_data Wikimedia blogpost about how the same was done for Australia]
*  a [https://github.com/CommerceDataService/census-wikidata-bot suite of bots to update data based on the US Census Bureau]
Would anyone with more experience on the issue be able to help me out? Thanks a lot! -- [[User:Dans|Dans]] ([[User talk:Dans|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:01, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

:Hello {{Ping|Dans}} an upload could be done using [[Help:QuickStatements]]:
:* https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch
:* Examples for qualificators: [[:de:Benutzer:M2k~dewiki/FAQ#Wie_kann_ich_Datumswerte_mit_Quickstatements_ergänzen?_Wie_kann_ich_Qualifikatoren_hinzufügen?]]
:Also see
:* [[Wikidata:Data_donation]]
:** [[Wikidata:Data_donation#Wikidata_and_copyright]]
:* [[Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2023/05#Data_Donation_City_of_Zurich_-_How_has_data_donation_be_done?]]
:[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:23, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

== Peakfinder site contents moved to cdnrockiesdatabases.ca ==

I cannot update property values. On Aug 14, I added details about the move and my proposed changes on the [[Property:P3770|PeakFinder ID]] [[Property_talk:P3770#Site contents moved to cdnrockiesdatabases.ca|discussion page]]. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

== How to model honorary titles like "baroness"? ==

Over at {{Q'''|Q15994834}}, there is currently a {{P'''|1476}} statement to express that the "baroness" part of the name is a honorary title. I think that P1476 is misplaced here, but I found no proper way to express the intended meaning and would appreciate pointers. [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ([[User talk:Daniel Mietchen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:45, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

:You need {{P|97}} instead of {{P|1476}} [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping|RVA2869}} Thanks for thinking along. I suspect {{P|97}} is not a good fit here either, since it requires an item, and I'm not sure we should have one for "Baroness of Summertown" or even "Baroness Willis of Summertown", as I have no idea about the nature and cultural context of such titles. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ([[User talk:Daniel Mietchen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:56, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] {{Q|165503}} is a generic title, you can always make a new one. Something like this {{Q|808603}}. [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
::::For hereditary peerages, the usual practice is {{P|97}}:{{Q|Q808603}} if an item for the title exists, or {{P|97}}:{{Q|Q165503}} if it does not, and the generic value can be made more specific later.
::::For Willis, it's a life peerage not a hereditary one, so I think the most common practice here is to use {{P|97}}:{{Q|Q2914468}} rather than a specific "Baron[ess] Willis of Summertown" item. But if in doubt, assign the generic "baron" and it'll get fixed up eventually. [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:18, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{Ping|RVA2869|Andrew Gray}} Thanks for the input. I [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15994834&diff=1960946077&oldid=1952536630&diffmode=source went with] {{P|97}}:{{Q|Q2914468}}. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ([[User talk:Daniel Mietchen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:45, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:16, 26 August 2023 (UTC)}}
== Linking Wikifunctions ==

Has there been any thought on whether/when sitelinks to Wikifunctions will be enabled? Should they be an entry under "Multilingual sites" / should there be a property?

I imagine there would be enough to link, say [https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/en/Z1286 Z1286] to [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4418344 Q4418344]. [[User:Azertus|Azertus]] ([[User talk:Azertus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

:Yes. See [[phab:T342857]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 09:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

{{section resolved|1=Azertus}}

== Wikidata weekly summary #590 ==

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* '''Discussions'''
** New requests for permissions/Bot: [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/TiagoLubianaBot 2|TiagoLubianaBot 2]] (Task: The [https://www.opentargets.org/ Open Targets Platform] is an important biomedical resource that makes its data available under a CC0 license waiver. The request at hand is to extend the permissions of [[d:User:TiagoLubianaBot|User:TiagoLubianaBot]] to import information from Open Targets, initially with a focus on physical interactions between proteins and drugs.)

* '''[[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]]'''
** Ongoing: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #106, [https://dicare.toolforge.org/lexemes/challenge.php?id=106 Sleep]
** Past:
*** Wikimania happened over the weekend. You can find a playlist of the events on [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhV3K_DS5YfLj-q0KY_WL7BGkGd_UtwK0 YouTube here]
*** Past: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #105, [https://dicare.toolforge.org/lexemes/challenge.php?id=105 Wikimania Singapore]

* '''Press, articles, blog posts, videos'''
** Blogs
*** [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/08/16/celebrating-the-2023-wikimedian-of-the-year-winners/ Celebrating the 2023 Wikimedian of the Year Winners]. Congratulations [[User:Tofeiku|Tofeiku]] and Siobhan Leachman for your dedication to Wikidata \o/ 
** Videos
*** Add Wikidata link to an OpenStreetMap (relation (in Spanish) - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCBz6s9uKJ0 YouTube]
*** Promoting GLAM Institution in Indonesia through OSM-Wikidata Mapping - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjBYSKwV8wU YouTube]

* '''Tool of the week'''
** [https://wikidata-game.toolforge.org/distributed/#game=84 Psychiq], a Distributed Wikidata Game system, suggests statements to add to Items based on Wikipedia English articles content.

* '''Did you know?'''
<!-- NEW PROPERTIES DO NOT REMOVE -->
** Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]]:
*** General datatypes: 
****[[:d:Property:P11950|appears before phonological feature]] (<nowiki>this lexeme form appears only when another lexeme form with this phonological feature comes after it</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Property:P11951|appears after phonological feature]] (<nowiki>this lexeme form appears only when it comes after another lexeme form with this phonological feature</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Property:P11952|appears before lexeme form]] (<nowiki>this lexeme form appears only when this other specific lexeme form comes after it</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Property:P11953|appears after lexeme form]] (<nowiki>this lexeme form appears only when it comes after this other specific lexeme form</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Property:P11957|Gottstein code]] (<nowiki>code representing a variant of the cuneiform sign according to the Gottstein system</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Property:P11964|tournament type]] (<nowiki>significance or status of a sports competition for a league, tour, association, etc.</nowiki>)
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P11947|Lemmy community ID]], [[:d:Property:P11948|NFSA title ID]], [[:d:Property:P11949|PesticideInfo chemical ID]], [[:d:Property:P11954|Unidades de Conservação no Brasil ID]], [[:d:Property:P11955|UMLS Semantic Network ID]], [[:d:Property:P11956|Experimental Factor Ontology ID]], [[:d:Property:P11958|Moroccan geographic code (2015)]], [[:d:Property:P11959|BHL item ID]], [[:d:Property:P11960|TVING ID]], [[:d:Property:P11961|Google Scholar organization ID]], [[:d:Property:P11962|Rumble channel]], [[:d:Property:P11963|GSA player ID]], [[:d:Property:P11965|Roku Channel Store ID]], [[:d:Property:P11966|snookerscores.net tournament ID]], [[:d:Property:P11967|OlimpBase FIDE ratings ID]], [[:d:Property:P11968|Antenna Structure Registration Number]], [[:d:Property:P11969|Korean Tour player ID]], [[:d:Property:P11970|Kastelenlexicon ID]], [[:d:Property:P11971|NFDI4Culture ID]], [[:d:Property:P11972|Pouët group ID]], [[:d:Property:P11973|Pouët group member ID]], [[:d:Property:P11974|Pouët demo ID]], [[:d:Property:P11975|Steam curator ID]], [[:d:Property:P11976|Podbay ID]], [[:d:Property:P11977|Rostocker Matrikelportal ID]], [[:d:Property:P11978|Panjab Digital Library ID]], [[:d:Property:P11979|Diamond Catalogue work ID]], [[:d:Property:P11980|Diamond Catalogue edition ID]], [[:d:Property:P11981|Frankfurt University Library Digital Collection ID]], [[:d:Property:P11982|Nurnet ID]], [[:d:Property:P11983|DUMAS thesis ID]], [[:d:Property:P11984|Syok podcast ID]]
<!-- END NEW PROPERTIES -->
<!-- NEW PROPOSALS DO NOT REMOVE -->
** New [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review:
*** General datatypes: 
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/patron deity|patron deity]] (<nowiki></nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/WHO Aware Classification|WHO Aware Classification]] (<nowiki>The World Health Organization currently classifies 258 antibiotics into "Access", "Watch", and "Reserve" based partly on the risk of resistance developing as a result of such use and critical nature of the antibiotic in question.</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/nombre de niveaux|nombre de niveaux]] (<nowiki>number of levels in a video game or number of stages in a particular sport</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/URL du plan du jeu vidéo|URL du plan du jeu vidéo]] (<nowiki>URL of the video game detailed map in subject provided by the site CPC-Power</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Positioning|Positioning]] (<nowiki>A list of all the satellite navigation system (ex. GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO, BDS, NavIC etc. ) a mobile device, or a smartphone supports. [https://w.wiki/7HE9 List of all the Satellite Navigation System].</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/place on the route|place on the route]] (<nowiki>object, station, facility, city, natural formation or other place on a road, track, route, line, watercourse, utility line or other linear route</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/simule|simule]] (<nowiki>the element imitates or makes the value of the property appear real</nowiki>)
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/ANPI person ID (2)|ANPI person ID (2)]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/J. Paul Getty Museum agent ID|J. Paul Getty Museum agent ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/ID ve Slovníku české literatury po roce 1945|ID ve Slovníku české literatury po roce 1945]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Vazhaju Word ID|Vazhaju Word ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/MUDlistings ID|MUDlistings ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/The Mud Connector ID|The Mud Connector ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Visiongame.cz game ID|Visiongame.cz game ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Visiongame.cz studio ID|Visiongame.cz studio ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Databáze her developer ID|Databáze her developer ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Biographical Directory of Federal Judges Numeric ID|Biographical Directory of Federal Judges Numeric ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Living Music Database composer ID|Living Music Database composer ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Anikore anime ID|Anikore anime ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/wiki.gg wiki ID|wiki.gg wiki ID]]
<!-- END NEW PROPOSALS -->
** Query examples: 
*** [https://w.wiki/7GXf Count of items with an article on fr.wikivoyage.org by country] ([[:d:User:PAC2/Wikivoyage|source]])
*** [https://w.wiki/7GsR Count of items with an article on fr.wikiquote.org by instance of] ([[:d:User:PAC2/Wikiquote|source]]) 
*** [https://w.wiki/7HCP Count of items that have X amount of statements. A simple showcase of Blazegraph optimizations.]
*** [https://w.wiki/6TNS Week 33, 2023: Top album languages found on Wikidata right now] ([https://wikis.world/@moebeus@mastodon.online/110915045039310848 source])

* '''Development'''
** EntitySchemas: We investigated ways to help you search for EntitySchemas by their Labels, Aliases and Descriptions ([[phab:T341969]])
** Mismatch Finder: We have added the Language Selector to the Mismatch Finder ([[phab:T328149]])
** Improved language fallback: We are testing to clearly show the fallback Label in the placeholders for empty Labels ([[phab:T338330]], [[phab:T340832]])

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

* '''Monthly Tasks'''
** Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
** Comment on property proposals: [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open proposals]]
** Contribute to a [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase item]].
** Help [[d:Special:LanguageStats|translate]] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
** [[d:User:Pasleim/projectmerge|Help merge identical items]] across Wikimedia projects.
** Help [[d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next|write the next summary!]]


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== PMC and author manuscripts ==

How to mark {{P|932}} value in a scientific article ({{Q|37258135}}, for example) as referring to a [[:en:Manuscript (publishing)|manuscript]] that was published in its final form in the corresponding journal? Can I use {{P|31}} qualifier set to {{Q|2376293}}? Are there any other ways? What would be the best way to mark PMCID as manuscript? [[User:D6194c-1cc|D6194c-1cc]] ([[User talk:D6194c-1cc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:46, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:D6194c-1cc|D6194c-1cc]] Isn't this already an item for a published manuscript in its final form in the corresponding journal? If yes, why would we expect any other Pubmed Central link to appear in this item? [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::Final form of a manuscript can be corrected by journal editors and it can be hidden by paywall. Here is example: [https://www.seminarsinnephrology.org/article/S0270-9295(09)00024-2/fulltext] / [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2709207/] (look at the information about the manuscript in the header). To cite PMC manuscript by modules that I develop (like [[:en:Template:Cite Q|Cite Q]]) properly I need to know whether PMC copy is the manuscript or the article itself. [[User:D6194c-1cc|D6194c-1cc]] ([[User talk:D6194c-1cc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:59, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:D6194c-1cc|D6194c-1cc]] Ah, OK. I imagine that a qualifier like {{property|P3831}} or {{property|P518}} could be suitable but I invite others from the community here to comment on a best solution. [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
::::The {{P|3831}} property seems the most suitable. If no one minds, I'll add it to the {{P|932}} {{Q|21510851}} restrictions. [[User:D6194c-1cc|D6194c-1cc]] ([[User talk:D6194c-1cc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:59, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Vojtěch Dostál}} Thanks for the help! [[User:D6194c-1cc|D6194c-1cc]] ([[User talk:D6194c-1cc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

{{section resolved|[[User:D6194c-1cc|D6194c-1cc]] ([[User talk:D6194c-1cc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== A way to connect our ingredient chemical composition database to your server ==

Hi there,
At GlobalChem we have been documenting the chemical compositions of different foods and materials. Our goal is to establish a connection between our database and your server. This connection will enable the provision of 1D-representations of the chemicals present in various foods and materials. This collaborative effort will greatly aid individuals in identifying the chemical makeup of different foods and materials, enhancing their understanding of these compositions. [[User:Nickspizza001|Nickspizza001]] ([[User talk:Nickspizza001|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

:sounds cool but please do not make a lot of edits to wikidata without getting some kind of buy in from the community. you may need to go to [[Wikidata:Property proposal]] or [[Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot]]. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you! Will do that. [[Special:Contributions/197.210.29.118|197.210.29.118]] 23:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

== Magnus Manske/duplicate item.js ==

I feel very stupid, I can't figure out how to activate [[User:Magnus Manske/duplicate item.js]]. [[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:35, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

:Hello {{Ping|StarTrekker}} you have to add the line
:<pre>importScript( 'User:Magnus_Manske/duplicate_item.js' );</pre>
:to your 
:* [[User:StarTrekker/common.js]]
:like in 
:* [[User:M2k~dewiki/common.js]]
:However, I would recommend to use ''User:So9q/duplicate item.js'' instead, since it also includes the additional confirmation step "are you sure you?", otherwise duplicates might be created by accident by clicking on the wrong naviagational element. [[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:07, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you so much {{Ping|M2k~dewiki}}![[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Description ==

Why there are two different descriptions for the same type of edit? [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6607459&diff=prev&oldid=1114695864] and [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6607459&diff=prev&oldid=1961758797] What is the difference? [[User:Eurohunter|Eurohunter]] ([[User talk:Eurohunter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

:Probably the method (API call) used. Notice that the frwiki page was created using the Content Translation tool and the enwiki page was the source for the translation. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

:: Indeed it is the API method used. `wblinktitles` vs `wbsetsitelink` '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 11:46, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Disney+ and Amazon Prime Video ==

Hi, can I ask you a little edit about the Italian Wikidata of Disney+ and Amazon Prime Video? I can't edit them because they're protected. I'd like to write "servizio di streaming statunitense", which is the correct translation of "American streaming service". In fact that's what's written in the Italian Wikidata of other streaming services' articles, such as the ones about Paramount+, Peacock, Crunchyroll, etc. [[Special:Contributions/79.44.29.187|79.44.29.187]] 21:56, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
:{{Done}}: {{Q|54958752}}, {{Q|4740856}}. --[[User:Beta16|β<sub>16</sub>]] - ([[User_talk:Beta16|talk]]) 07:07, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:56, 30 August 2023 (UTC)}}

== Duplication of elements ==

Hi. Is it possible to combine duplicated elements [[Q121864308]] and [[Q19968481]]? [[User:1677venzel gottorpskij|1677venzel gottorpskij]] ([[User talk:1677venzel gottorpskij|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:06, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
:Yes, they can be merged.[[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:12, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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== New tool for editing albums ==

Hello! 

I've created a new tool called Multi-track Drafting, the hope is that it can make the creation of music tracks and tracklists ''a lot'' simpler: '''https://multitrack-drafting.toolforge.org'''

Essentially, you pick an album to edit, input your tracklist (with optional duration and ISRC), plus some other optional metadata like the producer, recording location, and performer, and then it'll automatically create the track items and tracklist statement for you!

Here are some examples of album items I've edited with this tool: {{Q|Q26963142}}, {{Q|Q121848571}}, {{Q|Q18713733}}, {{Q|Q24037126}}

Thanks to [[User:Moebeus]] for all the help on figuring out how this tool should work and for helping me refine its functionality!

There's documentation at [[User:Nicereddy/Multitrack_Drafting]] if you'd like more information. Please ping me if you run into any problems.

Best, [[User:Nicereddy|Nicereddy]] ([[User talk:Nicereddy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:16, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

:good I like it [[User:Younger G the slaughterer|Younger G the slaughterer]] ([[User talk:Younger G the slaughterer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:45, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

== {{P|180}} of {{P|18}}: it's me! ==

I've made a query to detect which items have {{P|180}} of {{P|18}} that links to the same item. [https://w.wiki/7LCg This is it] (1902 items). Is there any reason in any case for this kind of redundancy? Thanks in advance. [[User:Paucabot|Paucabot]] ([[User talk:Paucabot|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:52, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
:More simple version: https://w.wiki/7LVY . Looking at cases like [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q100535&oldid=1861611906], I think this should be moved to the Media Info on Commons. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
:: Thanks {{u|Multichill}} for the simpler query. In the case you mention, [[Q100535#P18]], don't you think it's absolutely redundant (only P180, I mean)? Every photograph in P18 of an item should represent the item. Am I missing something? Thanks, [[User:Paucabot|Paucabot]] ([[User talk:Paucabot|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:01, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
== User group icons ==

Hello, I have made some icons for user groups on Wikidata which do not appear to currently have user icons. However there was some pushback on adding them directly to the pages by @[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] so I am asking here if these are a good addition. The following are the user groups and the icons which I made.
* {{ll|Wikidata:Autoconfirmed users}} — [[:File:Wikidata Autoconfirmed Icon.svg]]
* {{ll|Wikidata:Confirmed users}} — [[:File:Wikidata Confirmed Icon.svg]]
* {{ll|Wikidata:Flooders}} — [[:File:Wikidata Flooder Icon.svg]]
* {{ll|Wikidata:Interface administrators}} — [[:File:Wikidata Interface Administrator Icon.svg]]
* {{ll|Wikidata:Rollbackers}} — [[:File:Wikidata Rollbacker Icon.svg]]
* {{ll|Wikidata:Translation administrators}} — [[:File:Wikidata Translation Administrator Icon.svg]]
Should some or all of these be added as standard icons to the pages? [[User:Terasail|<span style="color:#088; font-weight:800;">Terasail</span>]][[User talk:Terasail|<sup><span style="color:#000;">'''[✉️]'''</span></sup>]] 14:46, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

== Wikidata weekly summary #591 ==

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* '''Discussions'''
** Closed request for permissions/Bot: [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/TiagoLubianaBot 2|TiagoLubianaBot 2]] (Task: The [https://www.opentargets.org/ Open Targets Platform] is an important biomedical resource that makes its data available under a CC0 license waiver. The request at hand is to extend the permissions of [[d:User:TiagoLubianaBot|User:TiagoLubianaBot]] to import information from Open Targets, initially with a focus on physical interactions between proteins and drugs.)

* '''[[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]]'''
** Ongoing: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #107, [https://dicare.toolforge.org/lexemes/challenge.php?id=107 Teeth] (Challenge started on 2023-08-28 12:01:31)
** Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Working Hour August 28, 2023. We will cover adding the articles from our bibliography of diverse LIS resources that we created in our last session to Wikidata! We will learn how to use Zotero, the reference management software, and its browser plugin to automatically extract metadata for articles and convert them to a Wikidata format that can be batch uploaded using QuickStatements. To get a sneak preview of what we will be doing, you can learn more about the Wikidata & Zotero link here: [[d:Wikidata:Zotero|Wikidata:Zotero]]. This session will be recorded and the recording shared on the event page. [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group/Wikidata Working Hours/2023-August-28 Wikidata Working Hour|Event page]]

* '''Press, articles, blog posts, videos'''
** Papers: [https://ceur-ws.org/Vol-3462/TADA3.pdf WikiDBs: A Corpus Of Relational Databases From Wikidata]
** Videos
*** Keynote about Wikidata for the Chinese Confernence on Knowledge Graphs and Semantic Computing 2023, by Denny Vrandečić - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXEctjXD_GU YouTube]
*** How to fill an Infobox on Wikipedia using Wikidata - Wikipedia For Beginners - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoGst-hhaqU YouTube]
*** The impact of Wikidata-powered inboxes on minority and low-resourced language Wikipedias in Africa (Wikimania 2023) - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mog2wXCypA4 YouTube]
*** How to create item in Wikidata about a village (in Malayalam) - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgocEFUv6ok YouTube]
*** Add Wikidata link to an OpenStreetMap relation (in Guarani) - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCBz6s9uKJ0 YouTube]
*** WikiDBs: A Corpus Of Relational Databases From Wikidata - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz70A8JCGO8 YouTube]

* '''Tool of the week'''
** [https://wikitrivia.tomjwatson.com/ Wikitrivia] is a web-based game that challenges your knowledge of historical events, people, and places. The game is a combination of Sudoku and Scrabble, and all the data used in the game is sourced from Wikidata and Wikipedia. The objective of the game is to place the cards on the timeline in the correct order.

* '''Other Noteworthy Stuff'''
** Biyanto Rebin is joining the Software Communication team (SCoT) at Wikimedia Deutschland for 2.5 months as an intern. Welcome!
** Call for Projects and Mentors for Outreachy Round 27! [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org/message/IPGTE5XVAZ32DO3NWDSDQW2A3A4NZB5X/ Project submission deadline - September 29, 2023 at 4pm UTC].
** [https://www.iamexpat.nl/career/jobs-netherlands/research-academic/postdoctoral-researcher-nlp-digital-humanities-and Postdoctoral researcher (position) in NLP, Digital Humanities, and Semantic Web (0.8 FTE), University of Groningen]

* '''Did you know?'''
<!-- NEW PROPERTIES DO NOT REMOVE -->
** Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]]:
*** General datatypes:
****[[:d:Property:P12002|has heir or beneficiary]] (<nowiki>people or organizations that received, or will receive, (all or part of) the subject's property or title</nowiki>)
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P11985|Austrian Cave Register ID]], [[:d:Property:P11986|‎research.com ID]], [[:d:Property:P11987|AFC-Ajax.info player ID]], [[:d:Property:P11988|wiki.gg article ID]], [[:d:Property:P11989|MUDlistings ID]], [[:d:Property:P11990|The Mud Connector ID]], [[:d:Property:P11991|‎Visiongame.cz game ID]], [[:d:Property:P11992|‎Visiongame.cz studio ID]], [[:d:Property:P11993|Databáze her developer ID]], [[:d:Property:P11994|wiki.gg wiki ID]], [[:d:Property:P11995|Audio+ show ID]], [[:d:Property:P11996|Cent cols ID]], [[:d:Property:P11997|Lift Up profile ID]], [[:d:Property:P11998|Living Music Database composer ID]], [[:d:Property:P11999|Dictionary of Czech literature after 1945 ID]], [[:d:Property:P12000|‎Biographical Directory of Federal Judges numeric ID]], [[:d:Property:P12001|GamerProfiles game ID]]
<!-- END NEW PROPERTIES -->
<!-- NEW PROPOSALS DO NOT REMOVE -->
** New [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review:
*** General datatypes:
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/simule|simule]] (<nowiki>the element imitates or makes the value of the property appear real</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/sexe ou genre du protagoniste|sexe ou genre du protagoniste]] (<nowiki>regarding the work in question, For human: male, female, non-binary, intersex, transgender female, transgender male, agender. For animal: male organism, female organism. Groups of same gender use subclass of (P279)</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/unofficial name|unofficial name]] (<nowiki>name which is widely or rarely used, but not official (for nicknames use P1449, for pseudonymes P742)</nowiki>)
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/VocalEyes Heritage Access 2022|VocalEyes Heritage Access 2022]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/WikiChip article ID|WikiChip article ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifiant Demozoo d'une démo|identifiant Demozoo d'une démo]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifiant Demozoo d'un membre d'un groupe de démo|identifiant Demozoo d'un membre d'un groupe de démo]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Czech geological location ID|Czech geological location ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Moviefone person ID|Moviefone person ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Moviefone movie ID|Moviefone movie ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Les Petits M'O ID|Les Petits M'O ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Internet Dictionary of Polish Surnames ID|Internet Dictionary of Polish Surnames ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Minerals.net mineral ID|Minerals.net mineral ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Minerals.net gemstone ID|Minerals.net gemstone ID]]
<!-- END NEW PROPOSALS -->
** Query examples:
*** [https://w.wiki/7KAF Map of birthplaces of German women writers] ([https://twitter.com/steinhoff_uwe/status/1694480115403555205 source])
*** [https://w.wiki/6TNS Week 34, 2023: Top album languages found on Wikidata right now] ([https://wikis.world/@moebeus@mastodon.online/110956754311815912 source])
*** [https://w.wiki/7LpT Where were people who  went to space born?] ([https://twitter.com/andrawaag/status/966657088687656961 source])
** Newest [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects|WikiProjects]]: [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Research expeditions|WikiProject Research expeditions]] - documents the activities of an international working group on Research expeditions.

* '''Development'''
** We started looking at ways to make the Mismatch Finder more powerful and capture more mismatches.
** We updated bootstrap-table library on Wikidata Query Service ([[phab:T328281]])
** We fixed Lexeme header overlaps page toolbar in Minerva skin ([[phab:T318981]])
** We fixed lookup component scrollbar problem ([[phab:T325822]])
** We added telnet as a valid protocol for URL data types ([[phab:T344417]])
** We added language fallback support for EntitySchemas on Special pages ([[phab:T338798]])
[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

* '''Monthly Tasks'''
** Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
** Comment on property proposals: [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open proposals]]
** Contribute to a [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase item]].
** Help [[d:Special:LanguageStats|translate]] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
** [[d:User:Pasleim/projectmerge|Help merge identical items]] across Wikimedia projects.
** Help [[d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next|write the next summary!]]

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== Review the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee ==

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Hello all,

I am pleased to share the next step in the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Universal Code of Conduct|Universal Code of Conduct]] work. The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) draft charter]] is now ready for your review. 

The [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Universal Code of Conduct/Enforcement guidelines|Enforcement Guidelines]] require a [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Enforcement_guidelines#4.5_U4C_Building_Committee|Building Committee]] form to draft a charter that outlines procedures and details for a global committee to be called the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Enforcement_guidelines#4._UCoC_Coordinating_Committee_(U4C)|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)]]. Over the past few months, the U4C Building Committee worked together as a group to discuss and draft the U4C charter. The U4C Building Committee welcomes feedback about the draft charter now through 22 September 2023. After that date, the U4C Building Committee will revise the charter as needed and a community vote will open shortly afterward.

Join the conversation during the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/U4C Building Committee#Conversation hours|conversation hours]] or on [[m:Talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|Meta-wiki]].

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== Proposed Anti-Vandal Bot ==

I've been working on and off on an anti-vandal bot for Wikidata. I'm not done yet but I'm at the point where I don't want to commit much more effort in this direction unless I'm sure the community is actually interested in having such a thing. I put together a document discussing the plan at '''[[User:BrokenSegue/CounterVandalismBotPlan]]''' but generally the idea is 1) train/evaluate offline 2) tag vandalous edits 3) start reverting edits. 

So my question is: '''would such a bot see approval if its performance were "''good enough''" and what do people think constitutes "''good enough''"?'''

Also, if anyone is interested in collaborating do tell.

[[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:42, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

:* I am generally supportive, and I think it would gain community support as well. But the ML component ain't easy. Is it a good idea to compete with the ML team of the Wikimedia foundation? —[[User:MisterSynergy|MisterSynergy]] ([[User talk:MisterSynergy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
:*:I mean worst case I don't figure out how to get good enough models and nothing happens. Best case the WMF's ML team produces a model good enough and I just build an anti-vandal bot around their tech. The case I'm mainly considering is that I build a model that uses their model as one of its inputs. I don't believe the WMF plans to productionize their models as an anti-vandal bot so there's definitely work to do here that isn't competitive with the WMF. I've already been playing with the prototype models the WMF is cooking up. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:* I'd say that Wikidata is no-doubt in need for more counter vandalism activity. The problem that i see is that all efforts that tried to aid Counter Vandalism using AI until now (mainly ORES) produce both a lot of type II errors (which would be acceptable for such a bot) and a way to high number of type I errors. In order to be acceptable, such a bot would in my opinion need to guarantee at least α<0.1%. How does your approach differ from ORES? -- [[User:Dr.üsenfieber|Dr.üsenfieber]] ([[User talk:Dr.üsenfieber|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:15, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:*:{{re|Dr.üsenfieber}} my understanding is that the current algorithm behind ORES is incredibly outdated and hasn't been retrained in a long time. My hope is that modern advances in ML (specifically LLMs) will enable us to do this much more effectively. 0.1% is I think a good target for false positives on Wikidata. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:20, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:*::Most importantly, feature selection can certainly be improved a lot compared to ORES; and maybe we should not be scoring individual revisions, but aggregated activity (by user, page, or user+page) within a given timeframe instead. With atomic edits on Wikidata, individual revisions are often impossible to score without additional context. "Modern advances in ML" might possibly be helpful in so far as the tooling is likely better/easier to use today than it was a decade ago, and we possibly also have access to far better hardware for training. —[[User:MisterSynergy|MisterSynergy]] ([[User talk:MisterSynergy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:*:::Yeah one major change I'm making from ORES and the current WMF approach is that I'm scoring groups of sequential edits to a single page (instead of single edits since those aren't very meaningful on Wikidata). I'm not currently thinking about scoring on a per-person basis but I am thinking of incorporating user-specific features (e.g. how many times have you been reverted recently). My prototype model is already better than ORES but that's not saying that much. Also, it's unclear if we should measure the false positive rate based on "edits classified" or "groups of edits classified". The latter is significantly harder.
:*:::But I don't see why a bot shouldn't be able to revert vandalism like [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q45864&diff=prev&oldid=1955500175 this] immediately. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:07, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:*::::Honestly: For vandalism like this a LLM is completely unnecessary. It could be detected simply by property constraints. I think it'd definitely be good to have better tagging for likely-not-constructive edits. This tagging system should be properly evaluated before using it for automated decision making. -- [[User:Dr.üsenfieber|Dr.üsenfieber]] ([[User talk:Dr.üsenfieber|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:*:::::Oh I 100% agree. An LLM is total overkill. This project is partly for my own enjoyment. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:29, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:I've been thinking about a related idea: Can we predict whether a recently-created object is going to be deleted? [[User:Bovlb|Bovlb]] ([[User talk:Bovlb|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:30, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
::This does not require machine learning. Some sophisticated querying reveals plenty of candidates to keep you busy ;-) —[[User:MisterSynergy|MisterSynergy]] ([[User talk:MisterSynergy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:52, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Tried rewriting the typical SPARQL query for this into an ElasticSearch query recently. Unfortunately ElasticSearch does not keep track of individual incoming links. [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
::I had similar thoughts but the problem is that we can probably never automate deletion but automating rollback is definitely doable. I also think vandalism is a bigger problem than low quality items. In some sense non-notable people don't actually make wikidata less useful. And if the bottleneck for deletion is admin-volunteer time then...well automation doesn't help much. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:58, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:::We already have automated rollback based on ORES and that will likely switch to the new WMF models once those are ready. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 09:43, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
::::{{re|ChristianKl}} we do? I've never seen this happen. Where? [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:41, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::I do vaguely remember that sometimes people complain here about such reverts. {{re|Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)}} can you say something about the status quo and your current plans regarding ORES? [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 20:58, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::(Sorry - delayed reply because of vacation/travel)
::::::@[[User:ChristianKl|ChristianKl]]: I've been talking about this project with @[[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] and I think it's worth giving it a try.
::::::WRT ORES: WMF is right now in the process of migrating to Lift Wing. I am helping them where I can. The dev team is also adapting some of the xisting tools we have that rely on it like the Item Quality Evaluator. This will make the whole system more flexible, modern and extensible and also gives us a chance to retrain the model much more frequently. We are collecting training data in https://annotool.toolforge.org/ with the research and machine learning teams of the WMF. That is progressing quite well. Once we have a bit more training data they will retrain the new Lift Wing models so hopefully they will be better than what we have right now.
::::::As for the automated reverts based on ORES judements: That might have been @[[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] but not 100% sure.
::::::Hope that helps. [[User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::the bot is not working right perhaps because ORES is retired https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dexbot [[User:Baratiiman|Baratiiman]] ([[User talk:Baratiiman|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::::The bot is active, what are you talking about? [[User:Ladsgroup|Amir]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:27, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)]] My revertbot in fawiki uses some ORES scores as features but it's not really based on ores. It has its own model, separately trained. I don't recommend using ores for this wiki at all as it's quite old and haven't been trained for half a decade at this point. [[User:Ladsgroup|Amir]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::I'm sure we had such a bot in the past when ORES was fairly new. But I cannot find it right now... --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
:[https://chat.openai.com/share/bc8a1bdb-5913-4914-9a86-2067feef8078 here are some examples of chatgpt solving some proposed scenarios.] these aren't cherry picked they are literally the first things i tried. obviously if i did this for real I would fine-tune the model [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:46, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

::{{ping|Dr.üsenfieber}} What do you mean with type II errors? Tagging a valid change as vandalism?--[[User:U. M. Owen|U. M. Owen]] ([[User talk:U. M. Owen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_type_II_errors type II errors are false negatives. the opposite of what you said. type I errors are unacceptable in this scenario. type II are basically fine. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:32, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:i trust if this is anything like the closed source dex bot that is currently murdering fawiki you are better off [[User:Baratiiman|Baratiiman]] ([[User talk:Baratiiman|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:54, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
::Clarify "murdering." --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
::{{re| Baratiiman}} yes I would like to hear more about this "dex bot" on fawiki [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]]: [[Special:CentralAuth/Baratiiman]] that would give you more context to this discussion. [[User:Ladsgroup|Amir]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
::Since you brought it up, the bot being {{Q|341}} would - according to me - be a requirement for a bot that does automatic reverts. -- [[User:Dr.üsenfieber|Dr.üsenfieber]] ([[User talk:Dr.üsenfieber|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:21, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
:::{{re|Dr.üsenfieber}} where do you personally draw the line. would it be ok to use a paid service as part of the bot, for example the google translate API? assuming the source code of the bot itself were free? [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

== Quick Presets (Software) uses German word for English user ==

When I visit {{Q|7085394}} with default language en-GB, I get a Quick Presets section with "Add Os: Linux ∙ Windows ∙ macOS ∙ Plattformunabhäng ∙ unixoid". Why do I get a German(?) term rather than cross-platform? [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

:QuickPresets is custom JavaScript and not something build. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Vicarage/quickpresetssettings.js is part of your but if you have something to add the OS in addition you are likely including other quickpresets as well. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 17:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
::Probably related to User:MichaelSchoenitzer/quickpresets.js then, which I started using for my presets. Ah-ha its hard-coded in User:MichaelSchoenitzer/quickpresets defaultconf.js. I will ask him [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:48, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

== Q12718681 cannot be linked to dawiki:Storebæltsbroen ==

'''Problem''': Article specifically about the bridge https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storeb%C3%A6ltsbroen cannot be linked to article in Danish language, because in Danish we only have the article about Storebæltsforbindelsen but with the bridge (Storebæltsbroen) as second lemma. It would be important if link would be functional from https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storeb%C3%A6ltsbroen to https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storeb%C3%A6ltsforbindelsen to provide more information on the bridge when reading the German article.

I tried to merge the wikidata items somehow, but I'm too unexperienced I have to admit. Any suggestions how this could be done? [[User:Phi1free|Phi1free]] ([[User talk:Phi1free|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:56, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Phi1free|Phi1free]]: I've added the [https://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Storeb%C3%A6ltsbroen&redirect=no Danish redirect] to {{Q|Q12718681}}. Is this what you were looking for? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 19:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
::Yes, exactly this was my intention. Indeed easier than messing up wikidata as I planned to :) Thank! [[User:Phi1free|Phi1free]] ([[User talk:Phi1free|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
:::No problem, feel free to reach out with any other questions. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 20:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

== Help:Basic membership properties ==

Greetings. I'd need some help in [[Q121960184]] (and [[Q1647035]]) about applying [[Help:Basic membership properties]], if I'm using correctly instance-of vs. subclass-of. I'd appreciate advice from a more experienced editor, please. Thanks! [[User:Fgnievinski|Fgnievinski]] ([[User talk:Fgnievinski|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
== Me interesa contratar un consultor para un proyecto con Wikidata ==

Me interesa buscar en Wikidata a las actrices y actores "famosos" que estan registrados y crear una base externa.
Me pueden contactar inicialmente por correo luischinchillaA@gmail.com e indicarme sus servicios, luego establecer un canal más rapido de comunicacion y tener reunion virtual.

Gracias.

Luis Chinchilla A [[User:ConSnap|ConSnap]] ([[User talk:ConSnap|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

== Add link to enwiki redirect page ==

Hi, wondering if anyone can help. I created the redirect [[w:en:1989 Nobel Peace Prize]] on enwiki and I’m trying to link it to {{Q|Q10844039}} on wikidata. However I’m getting an error when I try to add it. I’m also confused by the difference between “sitelink to redirect” and “intentional sitelink to redirect”. Any help appreciated. Thanks! (Full disclosure, I previously asked this question on IRC but didn’t get an answer, so I’m asking it here instead.) [[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]] ([[User talk:A smart kitten|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:39, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]]: I've applied the link, though I've changed the en.wiki redirect to link to the list of laureates page instead. I'm not sure what error you may have been getting. Regarding badges, see [[Help:Badges]]; for this situation, you'd want to use "intentional sitelink to redirect". <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 00:45, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Huntster|Huntster]] Thanks for your help - regarding the redirect target, I’ve messaged you on your enwiki talk. Regarding the error, this is what I get/got:
::{{quote|Warning: You are trying to add/remove badges to this item. At local Wikipedias adding or removing badges are done by consensus. Saving this edit was blocked and should be done only by administrators or trusted users. If you think you are correct, please contact an administrator.}}
::[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]] ([[User talk:A smart kitten|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:05, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]]: I see, it's likely because you don't have many edits here. Nothing to worry about, then. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 01:50, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

== Reasonator ==

Is [[Q20155952|it]] working? It's [[Q64728503|504]] for me... [[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:24, 31 August 2023 (UTC)